Selling music directly through itunes or through cdbaby?

[mrdelurk]

A possible alternative to self-pressed CDs that is still in planning stage on SourceForge: The Ideosphere. (Programmers needed.)

The money part : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ideosph ... ic/3698127

Just 5 paragraphs, worth reading.

[IP]

there is also labelworx ..
no setup fees , no fees for codes etc
all major stores
but 20% from sales (not bad)

[Peter Wells]

You can get licenses from the publishing rights holders (for covers), or even rights to sample or otherwise use someone's masters (master-use licensing) or even both (sync licensing). Usually it just requires money or a bit of homework. We created some guides to help folks know their rights and the rights of others:

http://www.tunecore.com/guides

The fact is, if you're using all your own property, from the music, the words, the ideas, you're fine. And if you want to use someone's else work, just reach out to them (though boy, those master use rights can be wicked expensive; publishing has some relief, there are compulsory rates in the U.S., see the guides above).

You guys are great, though--I lurked around here for a while, picking up tips on Ableton. I got an APC40, it really does make Ableton easier to use.

Holler if you've any questions about the industry, or TuneCore in general. I started the company, I can tell you for sure that everyone gets paid every penny they earn. We're on the lookout for fraud and even innocent mistakes--even in the rare case someone's gotten into trouble, we always try to help.

Thanks.

--Peter
[email protected]

I'm not so sure. Reading the blog post carefully suggests that Tunecore refused to pay because the poster had not obtained sample clearance, and the poster implied that no such clearance exists. At least that's how I interpret this:

I am writing this to warn you about this practice. It doesn't matter if you have licenses or not for your songs. If you samples someone, do a cover of a song, you are really not safe.

Well of course you're not safe! If you sample or cover someone else's work, that's making a copy, and you need permission from the copyright holder. That's the way it is, and it's not Tunecore's fault.

[carpekd]

Does anybody know if cdbaby has all the rights to your digital tracks like rebeat does?

[IP]

offtopic (not somuch)

Ableton forum members could easily have their own label

-a deal with a good distributor
-a very simple agreement with the artist for copyrighted material protection (just in case)
-Royalties & rights 100% to the artist
-mastering, artwork, promotion by the artist itself and option for quality services by experienced users (if there are any available) in a very low price (mix improvement, mastering, artwork etc)
-an open platform for sharing masters and direct sale reports
-maybe a simple site with artist profiles by genre
-possibility for remix requests and team works (a forum for that reason could be helpful)

Everyone can offer something small in his free time.
Something like an open label
It is not simple and not a game but very possible to happen if there are some ppl interesting.

[ikeaboy]

You can get licenses from the publishing rights holders (for covers), or even rights to sample or otherwise use someone's masters (master-use licensing) or even both (sync licensing). Usually it just requires money or a bit of homework. We created some guides to help folks know their rights and the rights of others:

http://www.tunecore.com/guides

The fact is, if you're using all your own property, from the music, the words, the ideas, you're fine. And if you want to use someone's else work, just reach out to them (though boy, those master use rights can be wicked expensive; publishing has some relief, there are compulsory rates in the U.S., see the guides above).

You guys are great, though--I lurked around here for a while, picking up tips on Ableton. I got an APC40, it really does make Ableton easier to use.

Holler if you've any questions about the industry, or TuneCore in general. I started the company, I can tell you for sure that everyone gets paid every penny they earn. We're on the lookout for fraud and even innocent mistakes--even in the rare case someone's gotten into trouble, we always try to help.

Thanks.

--Peter
[email protected]

I'm not so sure. Reading the blog post carefully suggests that Tunecore refused to pay because the poster had not obtained sample clearance, and the poster implied that no such clearance exists. At least that's how I interpret this:

I am writing this to warn you about this practice. It doesn't matter if you have licenses or not for your songs. If you samples someone, do a cover of a song, you are really not safe.

Well of course you're not safe! If you sample or cover someone else's work, that's making a copy, and you need permission from the copyright holder. That's the way it is, and it's not Tunecore's fault.

Welcome to the Ableton forum Peter. I teach a PLC course on the music industry and were looking evaluating the various online distributors soon so I might take you up on the offer of you answering a few questions if you didn't mind?

[pepezabala]

offtopic (not somuch)

Ableton forum members could easily have their own label

-a deal with a good distributor
-a very simple agreement with the artist for copyrighted material protection (just in case)
-Royalties & rights 100% to the artist
-mastering, artwork, promotion by the artist itself and option for quality services by experienced users (if there are any available) in a very low price (mix improvement, mastering, artwork etc)
-an open platform for sharing masters and direct sale reports
-maybe a simple site with artist profiles by genre
-possibility for remix requests and team works (a forum for that reason could be helpful)

Everyone can offer something small in his free time.
Something like an open label
It is not simple and not a game but very possible to happen if there are some ppl interesting.

If you have a a label and need a cheap and easy solution for selling your stuff online, then check out http://www.ithinkmusic.com

[Moody]

offtopic (not somuch)

Ableton forum members could easily have their own label

-a deal with a good distributor
-a very simple agreement with the artist for copyrighted material protection (just in case)
-Royalties & rights 100% to the artist
-mastering, artwork, promotion by the artist itself and option for quality services by experienced users (if there are any available) in a very low price (mix improvement, mastering, artwork etc)
-an open platform for sharing masters and direct sale reports
-maybe a simple site with artist profiles by genre
-possibility for remix requests and team works (a forum for that reason could be helpful)

Everyone can offer something small in his free time.
Something like an open label
It is not simple and not a game but very possible to happen if there are some ppl interesting.

Great idea!

[Peter Wells]

Welcome to the Ableton forum Peter. I teach a PLC course on the music industry and were looking evaluating the various online distributors soon so I might take you up on the offer of you answering a few questions if you didn't mind?

My pleasure! Feel free to write any time.

--Peter
[email protected]

EDIT: If you'd like to do an email interview, where you toss me a whole bunch of questions and I answer in one big email, that'd be fine. I do those sometimes.

[ikeaboy]

Welcome to the Ableton forum Peter. I teach a PLC course on the music industry and were looking evaluating the various online distributors soon so I might take you up on the offer of you answering a few questions if you didn't mind?

My pleasure! Feel free to write any time.

--Peter
[email protected]

EDIT: If you'd like to do an email interview, where you toss me a whole bunch of questions and I answer in one big email, that'd be fine. I do those sometimes.

Thanks a million Peter I'll send something on to you next week.

[Miki_Mundi]

You can get licenses from the publishing rights holders (for covers), or even rights to sample or otherwise use someone's masters (master-use licensing) or even both (sync licensing). Usually it just requires money or a bit of homework. We created some guides to help folks know their rights and the rights of others:

http://www.tunecore.com/guides

The fact is, if you're using all your own property, from the music, the words, the ideas, you're fine. And if you want to use someone's else work, just reach out to them (though boy, those master use rights can be wicked expensive; publishing has some relief, there are compulsory rates in the U.S., see the guides above).

You guys are great, though--I lurked around here for a while, picking up tips on Ableton. I got an APC40, it really does make Ableton easier to use.

Holler if you've any questions about the industry, or TuneCore in general. I started the company, I can tell you for sure that everyone gets paid every penny they earn. We're on the lookout for fraud and even innocent mistakes--even in the rare case someone's gotten into trouble, we always try to help.

Thanks.

--Peter
[email protected]

I'm not so sure. Reading the blog post carefully suggests that Tunecore refused to pay because the poster had not obtained sample clearance, and the poster implied that no such clearance exists. At least that's how I interpret this:

I am writing this to warn you about this practice. It doesn't matter if you have licenses or not for your songs. If you samples someone, do a cover of a song, you are really not safe.

Well of course you're not safe! If you sample or cover someone else's work, that's making a copy, and you need permission from the copyright holder. That's the way it is, and it's not Tunecore's fault.

Pretty New at this myself so thank you for the guides which I have read with interest, however I do have one question:

I like to use soundbites from movies, where do I stand copyright-wise with that?

[ikeaboy]

Pretty New at this myself so thank you for the guides which I have read with interest, however I do have one question:

I like to use soundbites from movies, where do I stand copyright-wise with that?

Same rules apply I think. Loads of people get away with movie samples in their tracks before but I reckon thats because they were flying well under the radar or they were too small an operation to sue. I can see why a distributor would be wary about touching stuff that breaks copyright as they present a much more viable target for copyright holders. If you like to know more check out a documentary called GoodCopyBadCopy you can download it here http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/download

[Miki_Mundi]

Pretty New at this myself so thank you for the guides which I have read with interest, however I do have one question:

I like to use soundbites from movies, where do I stand copyright-wise with that?

Same rules apply I think. Loads of people get away with movie samples in their tracks before but I reckon thats because they were flying well under the radar or they were too small an operation to sue. I can see why a distributor would be wary about touching stuff that breaks copyright as they present a much more viable target for copyright holders. If you like to know more check out a documentary called GoodCopyBadCopy you can download it here http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/download

So would a work around for this be that I would need to record the particular phrase myself, so that it is I who is speaking, so for example I want to use the soundbite "Fear is the mindkiller" from the film Dune, I should record myself doing my best Kyle Maclachlan impression and then there should be no problem?

[ninox_rufa]

You can get licenses from the publishing rights holders (for covers), or even rights to sample or otherwise use someone's masters (master-use licensing) or even both (sync licensing). Usually it just requires money or a bit of homework. We created some guides to help folks know their rights and the rights of others:

http://www.tunecore.com/guides

The fact is, if you're using all your own property, from the music, the words, the ideas, you're fine. And if you want to use someone's else work, just reach out to them (though boy, those master use rights can be wicked expensive; publishing has some relief, there are compulsory rates in the U.S., see the guides above).

You guys are great, though--I lurked around here for a while, picking up tips on Ableton. I got an APC40, it really does make Ableton easier to use.

Holler if you've any questions about the industry, or TuneCore in general. I started the company, I can tell you for sure that everyone gets paid every penny they earn. We're on the lookout for fraud and even innocent mistakes--even in the rare case someone's gotten into trouble, we always try to help.

Thanks.

--Peter
[email protected]

I'm not so sure. Reading the blog post carefully suggests that Tunecore refused to pay because the poster had not obtained sample clearance, and the poster implied that no such clearance exists. At least that's how I interpret this:

I am writing this to warn you about this practice. It doesn't matter if you have licenses or not for your songs. If you samples someone, do a cover of a song, you are really not safe.

Well of course you're not safe! If you sample or cover someone else's work, that's making a copy, and you need permission from the copyright holder. That's the way it is, and it's not Tunecore's fault.

Of course I'm taking the blog and the posts at face value. Assuming it is the truth though Peter, you haven't addressed what I think are the important points.

1. You state that you're fine if you use all your own property. It seems pretty clear to me that the blogger is. So why didn't they get paid?

Now you are confused because you wrote all the songs, and registered them with the copyright office. Again you argue that it is your music and it is original.

2. Regarding the Billie Jean track. Sure it was stupid and illegal for the poster to sell the track without clearance. But how does TuneCore justify selling the track for profit? And why did TuneCore withhold money from the sale of other tracks?

[ikeaboy]

Pretty New at this myself so thank you for the guides which I have read with interest, however I do have one question:

I like to use soundbites from movies, where do I stand copyright-wise with that?

Same rules apply I think. Loads of people get away with movie samples in their tracks before but I reckon thats because they were flying well under the radar or they were too small an operation to sue. I can see why a distributor would be wary about touching stuff that breaks copyright as they present a much more viable target for copyright holders. If you like to know more check out a documentary called GoodCopyBadCopy you can download it here http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/download

So would a work around for this be that I would need to record the particular phrase myself, so that it is I who is speaking, so for example I want to use the soundbite "Fear is the mindkiller" from the film Dune, I should record myself doing my best Kyle Maclachlan impression and then there should be no problem?

Watch some episodes of desperate housewives to get in character