What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
Khazul
Posts: 3185
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:19 pm
Location: Reading, UK

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by Khazul » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:05 pm

H20nly wrote:
Khazul wrote:
starving student wrote:beatsme would be proud that we kept the bloodshed in this thread to a minimum :mrgreen:
That cos I aint gone all hip-hop on ya and pulled out a gun n taken yr ho, greenz n shit :P
^ don't forget jumping over balconies. very important part of shady hip-hop activity is the balcony hurdle.
LOL - I remember that thread :)
Nothing to see here - move along!

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:05 pm

Khazul wrote:
starving student wrote:beatsme would be proud that we kept the bloodshed in this thread to a minimum :mrgreen:
That cos I aint gone all hip-hop on ya and pulled out a gun n taken yr ho, greenz n shit :P

now you know that's Gangsta Rap and not hiphop
and btw thank you for not doing that :mrgreen:

H20nly
Posts: 16113
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:15 pm
Location: The Wild West

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by H20nly » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:07 pm

starving student wrote:everyone on this forum can do what little wayne does, but everyone could not do what emenim does, although he stopped making hiphop along long time ago
this is an example of how you keep loosing him.

i get he Heavy D reference and started to get this reference but it kinda fizzles into obscurity at the end there.
LoopStationZebra wrote:it's like a hipster commie pinko manifesto. Rambling. Angry. Nearly divorced from all reality; yet strangely compelling with a ring of truth.

Piplodocus
Posts: 834
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:48 pm
Location: Southampton, UK

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by Piplodocus » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:08 pm

So this would be classed as MCing, rather than rapping?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRPa0GhxGUs

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:09 pm

well when eminenim started out he was making hiphop, not the greatest hiphop by any means but still, but now he doesnt even make rapmusic he mostly makes pop in my opinion
he's closer to black eyed peas than hiphop or rapmusic

Khazul
Posts: 3185
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:19 pm
Location: Reading, UK

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by Khazul » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:10 pm

Piplodocus wrote:So this would be classed as MCing, rather than rapping?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRPa0GhxGUs
Hmmm - fail - no good rhythm to the vocal - in fact fail from any aspect :)
Nothing to see here - move along!

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:11 pm

Piplodocus wrote:So this would be classed as MCing, rather than rapping?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRPa0GhxGUs
nah he's not Mcing he's rapping but he did turn common people into a hiphop song kind of.

H20nly
Posts: 16113
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:15 pm
Location: The Wild West

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by H20nly » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:12 pm

starving student wrote:well when eminenim started out he was making hiphop, not the greatest hiphop by any means but still, but now he doesnt even make rapmusic he mostly makes pop in my opinion
he's closer to black eyed peas than hiphop or rapmusic
yeah, but if someone has to ask i don't know that referencing an artist, that they probably don't and never have followed, is the best way to describe it when you start getting into the whole metomorphosis side of said artists carrer.

in other words i think you're going too far down the "Rabbit" hole. :wink:
LoopStationZebra wrote:it's like a hipster commie pinko manifesto. Rambling. Angry. Nearly divorced from all reality; yet strangely compelling with a ring of truth.

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:15 pm

here's an mc who also makes hiphop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNJFq6VjHJI

allot of people used to put dude down cause he wore trucker hats and was white and shit
I don't listen to people like that.

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:18 pm

H20nly wrote:
starving student wrote:well when eminenim started out he was making hiphop, not the greatest hiphop by any means but still, but now he doesnt even make rapmusic he mostly makes pop in my opinion
he's closer to black eyed peas than hiphop or rapmusic
yeah, but if someone has to ask i don't know that referencing an artist, that they probably don't and never have followed, is the best way to describe it when you start getting into the whole metomorphosis side of said artists carrer.

in other words i think you're going too far down the "Rabbit" hole. :wink:
I know what you mean....and I get it, it's just that there so much unecessary misinformation about the subject matter ya know, when my friends and I talk about rock music its so much easier :D

the fact that I don't really care about any of these labels and shit deep down only complicates things further or simplifies them depending on how you look at it.

Piplodocus
Posts: 834
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:48 pm
Location: Southampton, UK

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by Piplodocus » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:32 pm

Khazul wrote:
Piplodocus wrote:So this would be classed as MCing, rather than rapping?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRPa0GhxGUs
Hmmm - fail - no good rhythm to the vocal - in fact fail from any aspect :)
I based this more on H2Only's "an MC is a hype man" school of thought, than him being a rapper cuz his rhythm's all over the show, and I know rappers have to be rhythmical! :wink:

On a more serious note, this man is called a rapper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hQgCJGNspI

This man is called an MC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1kv0xDx8z0

I don't see much difference personally, other than I'd call them both "very good rappers" (although not doing traditional "rap music" or "hip-hop" music as it were)....

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:37 pm

Piplodocus wrote:
Khazul wrote:
Piplodocus wrote:So this would be classed as MCing, rather than rapping?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRPa0GhxGUs
Hmmm - fail - no good rhythm to the vocal - in fact fail from any aspect :)
I based this more on H2Only's "an MC is a hype man" school of thought, than him being a rapper cuz his rhythm's all over the show, and I know rappers have to be rhythmical! :wink:

On a more serious note, this man is called a rapper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hQgCJGNspI

This man is called an MC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1kv0xDx8z0

I don't see much difference personally, other than I'd call them both "very good rappers" (although not doing traditional "rap music" or "hip-hop" music as it were)....
one thing is for sure one wouldn't exist without the other. fresh nevertheless

starving student
Posts: 7129
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:13 pm
Location: right here

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by starving student » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:38 pm

there are hype men who are Mcs and not mcs as well, for instance flava flav is an mc but mc hammers hype man is not.


Piplodocus
Posts: 834
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:48 pm
Location: Southampton, UK

Re: What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

Post by Piplodocus » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:49 pm

starving student wrote:there are hype men who are Mcs and not mcs as well, for instance flava flav is an mc but mc hammers hype man is not.
I thought Flava Flav was a rapper!

WTF do I know!

The other guitarist from one of my old bands spent the whole of New Years Eve wearing one of our friends clocks on a piece of string for the evening, in a FF inspired moment of genius! :)

Post Reply