What Makes a Good Rapper a Good Rapper ?

[Khazul]

Sounds to me like half the people who actually make hip hop, rap music, or or rappers/MCs or whatever cant actually say what is what, never mind folks who simply listen to it - not suprising really considering the background of many of the those who defined the genre (not all I might add...) - they will call themselves what they want to call themselves - bollox to what the rest of the world defines things as and anyone who argues gets hacked up with a machette or a several large calibre bullets in them... Then along come those who just follow it and hey - thats their defintions as well. Hence this thread I guess and the confusion about what is rap vs rapmusic vs hip-hop, rappers vs MCs etc.

Rap existed as a means of vocalizing with rhythms and music for centuries - in africa and in europe according to the older (pre hip-hop) more generic and non-bastardised definition fo the term.

[starving student]

yes but that's not in question. that goes for all music we're just talking about
the roots of hiphop and rap here, to some folks detriment. I'm not sure if dude was more upset with me or that second clip of LL cool J

there are still strains that we haven't even brought up yet that are relevant today

[Khazul]

there are still strains...

Sounds like some desease

Look on the bright side - at least were not trying to discuss WTF is what genre of house. Thats my area and TBH - I dont have a fucking clue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styles_of_house_music

Yo DJ - here stick this track on
What genre is it?
House!
But what sub genre of house?
I dunno - sort of electroish
But which sub genre of electro?
I dunno - housey fucking electro
On yr bike sonny!

[Tone Deft]

always with the personal attacks.

hip hop is a culture. it consists of at least five elements
- rapping
- break dancing
- graffiti (go see Exit Through The Gift Shop)
- beat boxing (Fat Boys)
- turntablism

MW your hubris is amusing at times. you don't know shit about rap music.

OK wait? I tell you you're assuming you know what I know and don't know and you consider that a personal attack? Wow?
Then come back with your definition of the difference between hip hop and rap in a thread about what makes a good rapper? Did I ever mention I was interested in the difference? Do you think you're explanation proves your vast knowledge of Hip Hop VS me?

I listened to a lot of Rap/Hip Hop in the 80's and early 90's, nothing you come back with changes that. Yes, I find most of it boring these days, I liked the rougher sound.

Yes, nowadays Hip Hop and Rap are different things. - Plenty of people will tell you that there are plenty of rappers out there who are not Hip Hop at all.

Yes, Hip Hop is both a genre of music and an umbrella name for all related elements etc. not all Hip Hop music without an MC / rapper is going to be called Turntableism.

Some Rappers who play in front of Hip Hop music refer to their music as Hip Hop, to differentiate it from Rap, which they see as commercial.

That's all the things I know about it, mostly from random interviews with Hip Hop musicians; you don't agree with that assessment obviously, and I'm OK with that. I can tell you I'm tired of being told by you what I know and don't know. Look, even if we agree on something, some fucking how it ends up in an argument? it's why I've checked 90% of my replies to something you say. We just don't communicate well together, let it go.

clueless.

[jtdj]

so...what du call it then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YKFV45M18

[starving student]

so...what du call it then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YKFV45M18

I'd call that a decendant of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GBA0UiI ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ANAQo2nr9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12rC0JVt ... re=related

and remind you of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsJw65v0 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkbU_mxeDRg

[Boss Level Music]

This is what makes a good rapper.

'Nuff said.

[pro.tone]

All you future rappers please aim to achieve AT LEAST one of the following criteria

A good rapper is somebody
- crazy (and a sh*t givin') like Kool Keith or ODB
- frontiers breakin' like the Beasty Boys
- with a characteristic voice and flow like Method Man
- serious like Mobb Deep
- idealistic like KRS One
- prophetic like Jeru the Damaga
- determined like Chuck D and Black Star
- shadow boxin' like GZA, RZA, Ghostfacekilla, Raekwon, Inspektah Deck
- story tellin' like Nas
- spontaneuos like Big Al
- hardworkin' like the Executionerz and Premier
- militant like Banksy
- innovative like 70's Breakdance Crews
- fresh like Rahzel

Go for it!

[casiblake]

A good rapper knows when to shut up.

(I'm entirely serious, let the music speak for itself sometimes, please. Oh and singing for a change would be nice.)

[jtdj]

A good rapper knows when to shut up.

(I'm entirely serious, let the music speak for itself sometimes, please. Oh and singing for a change would be nice.)

so u think what makes a good rapper is be quiet and singing?

right.

[Cool Character]

i'm slow on the uptake.

Cool, bro.

[starving student]

let a legend explain it to ya


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsOS-iqSt_o

[docprosper]

a good diet & sense of humor...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7i9inHZIHw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMc5u9ZW ... re=related

[dylandigits]

"A good rapper is a good rapper." -MC Tautology & The Obvious Bunch

"Theoretical medical genitals" -Jay Smooth

This is where it all began, son: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9JoMRsUeTE

[starving student]

I couldn't agree with everything, but for me it started here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6P5A9g6mo