max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

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Palmer Eldritch
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max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by Palmer Eldritch » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:24 pm

In further max versions one can write the property of a live.observer directly into the object box. (for example | live.observer color |)
Now this does not work anymore.
When I instantiate a device with a live.observer where the property is written directly into the box I get the error code "unidentifiable C++ exception" in the max window.
Unfortunately, as I am a lazy guy, I have written those properties very often directly into the box. Hopefully this is a bug and not final design of live.observer in MAX 5.8
Otherwise I have to rewrite a lot of my devices to get them work again :(

Regards, palmer
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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by stb » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:18 pm

hi

actually this is still perfectly valid and should still work (and it does when i try it on my computer)

could you please send me a patch to show me where it does not work for you ?

thx a lot !
stb

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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by hoffman2k » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:39 pm

1) 8O You guys just blew my mind.

2) Looks like one of those live.observer bugs where it works in a device but not in the editor.

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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by Palmer Eldritch » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:13 am

Hi Stefan,

thanks for your very fast answer :D
(and also thanks to you, hoffman2k that you also have spent your time for trying to reproduce the bug) :D

Ok, after trying to reproduce the bug from the scratch it was not that obvious as I had thought at first.
But then I had investigated the structure of my older devices and found the solution. The bug becomes very obvious in subpatches and especially in subsubpatches > "unidentifiable C++ exeption" error.

So, below is the code for an example to make the bug clear. (inclusive explanations inside of the re-pasted code):

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

regards, palmer
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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by stb » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:55 pm

thx - could reproduce it with your patch

will have a look

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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by Palmer Eldritch » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:00 pm

stb wrote:thx - could reproduce it with your patch

will have a look
Fine :)
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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by stb » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:44 pm

should be fixed with the new Max beta

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Re: max5.8b - live.observer - bug or new design?

Post by Palmer Eldritch » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:24 pm

Yes, it is fixed now. :D :D :D

cheers, palmer
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