Industrial friendly synths

borg · Post by **borg** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:52 pm

charlie clouser also uses/used wavelength devices for the creamware platform... mean stuff. my favourites as well.

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/

dannyk · Post by **dannyk** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:59 pm

adhmzaiusz wrote:there is no synth that tops a virus
as far as digital goes...

... anyone know of anywhere selling Virus samples to use? All the viruses sound awesome but also out of my price range.

adhmzaiusz · Post by **adhmzaiusz** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:02 pm

dannyk wrote:
adhmzaiusz wrote:there is no synth that tops a virus
as far as digital goes...

... anyone know of anywhere selling Virus samples to use? All the viruses sound awesome but also out of my price range.

i was actually thinking of creating some free loops and some rippin rex files from mine, but have had no reason to yet...just say the word and ill make some loops (more than one request will motivate me)

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:44 pm

the word!

Notron Fan · Post by **Notron Fan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:48 am

Imposcar is great for $99.

Virsyn Tera 2 can get very hard and nasty in really good ways.

Filterscape is really good...but you might want to wait for U-He's Zebra2.

Reaktor...well, a man could get lost.

ConcreteFX's Kubik, worth checking out.

Notron Fan · Post by **Notron Fan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:55 am

camelphat and camelspace are a couple of plugs you should check out for some nice mangling possibilities.

E-FX modulator too.

adhmzaiusz · Post by **adhmzaiusz** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:04 am

it'll take 4 more 'the words' and ill get to work...you will be impressed

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:04 am

for synths i recommend Reaktor, specifically the "Synth In a Box" ensemble from the Reaktor Online User Library. Its a Synthi AKS emulation, and Trent Reznor has been a synthi/modular whore for quite some time now.

i'd also go a little further and recommend the use of specific FX rather than specific instruments for Industrial music. iZotope's Trash can destroy and shape sounds quite well. You can take a drum loop, and with clever clip envelope automation and rearrangement, make it sound like a really heavy fuzz guitar....

i did just that in this track - http://www.djadamjay.com/music2/AJ_Industrial3.mp3

that entire track (which is unfinished) is nothing but free drum samples from the naturalsounds.co.uk in two Impulses, iZotope Trash, a few Wave Arts' Track Plugs, Ableton Erosion, a couple wierd ambient samples made with Spectron and AUMatrixReverb.

so for me, the key to a thick and complex industrial sound isn't so much the instrument, but the FX.

I'll also use reFX Slayer (1) as a guitar source into NI Guitar Rig for more controllable heavy sounds. But lately it seems like i can put just about any sound source through iZotope Spectron and/or Trash and get a sound out the other end that gives me a large grin.

be creative!

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:48 am

Nice sounding piece Adam.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:58 am

I can definitely second the Synth In A Box. It's an awesome synth, and since the ringmod and other effects in it have saturation, running sounds through it for ringmod, distortion, fm/am sounds is *very* cool. Use midi learn, and tweak that bastard of a plugin! Export to sample editor - cut cut cut. there's your industrial sound.

(btw, I augmented the x/y field with two rotaries for easier automation.)

Two warnings for ya:

It's a proper analog simulation - all the big pops and dc offsets are in there, so watch your speakers.

Also be prepared to spend a *lot* of hours tweaking. A *lot*

nihil · Post by **nihil** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:52 am

well the absolute synth for indstrial would be the korg ms20... software like i would say every synth would work just fine. the aturia moog emu ist quite nice or reaktor...

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:12 pm

People like Trent have money to buy everything, and they have everything thrown at them for free, so you will see pics and read interviews where every product will be mentioned.

Industrial is awesome in that it can be anything from hard trance to a rusty gate going through a distortion pedal.

The best thing is to try a lot of demos out and find out what suits your idea of what Industrial is.

242 are my heroes and they love FM synths, the Operator being the most 242 of all synths (with arp will be

)

And Microtonic is it for me for making hard electro drum sounds

adhmzaiusz · Post by **adhmzaiusz** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:37 pm

Kodama wrote:People like Trent have money to buy everything, and they have everything thrown at them for free, so you will see pics and read interviews where every product will be mentioned.

Industrial is awesome in that it can be anything from hard trance to a rusty gate going through a distortion pedal.

The best thing is to try a lot of demos out and find out what suits your idea of what Industrial is.

242 are my heroes and they love FM synths, the Operator being the most 242 of all synths (with arp will be )

And Microtonic is it for me for making hard electro drum sounds

lol i met front 242...apparently on their last tour they used only jp8000s
...off is some great work...but trajedy for you is just plain classic. funny though how all industrial musicians these days are old men...

Alexander · Post by **Alexander** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:50 pm

adhmzaiusz wrote:lol i met front 242...apparently on their last tour they used only jp8000s
...off is some great work...but trajedy for you is just plain classic. funny though how all industrial musicians these days are old men...

me too, but don´t forget the latest releases "Still" & "Pulse" which I think are brilliant as well.

concerning industrial sound, just try an early 90s digital guitar fx like a yamaha gw 20. they must be really cheap now and sound really dirty.

if you like hardware a waldorf XT or a Q / µQ would be cool

AND be shure to visit Sequencer.de . This page rocks, there is even a brilliant forum

FaX-01 · Post by **FaX-01** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:58 am

Notron Fan wrote:Imposcar is great for $99.

Virsyn Tera 2 can get very hard and nasty in really good ways.

Filterscape is really good...but you might want to wait for U-He's Zebra2.

Reaktor...well, a man could get lost.

ConcreteFX's Kubik, worth checking out.

Kubik Rocks my Box

..... I did the ambient textures bank for V2 (helped with V2 beta testing also)

. - it's my favourite VSTi I might add but maybe I'm biased.
Jon is a pleasure to do business with.