If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Sticking with Live? If not, which DAW will you use?

Staying with Live
101
60%
Sonar
2
1%
Cubase/Nuendo
11
7%
Pro Tools
6
4%
Logic
22
13%
Studio One
8
5%
Record
3
2%
Reaper
8
5%
Samplitude/Sequoia
2
1%
Other (Mixbus, Digital Performer, ACID, Audition, etc.)
6
4%
 
Total votes: 169

McQ714
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If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by McQ714 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:05 pm

Will you jump ship? Which DAW would you go to?

This is not meant as an Ableton-bashing topic... just a bit of motivation for them to get it right.

Tone Deft
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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:55 pm

dude, just jump shit and stop the whining. :P

props to the guys that still rock Ver 6.
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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by kanuck » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:58 pm

ableton for sound design

logic for mixing/recording/post production

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by Rationalizer » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:22 pm

Staying (a)Live. And don't see the point posting these polls on ableton forum anyway.
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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by savyurrecords » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:55 pm

Rationalizer wrote:Staying (a)Live. And don't see the point posting these polls on ableton forum anyway.
+ infinity

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by NF » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:56 pm

Live in arrangement view for producing and creative stuff

Live in session view for live acts/ more creative stuff and mix/ master stuff

it´s the best not to look at the arrangement when I mix! looking to the automation stucks, because you know what is coming...

--> my super ego says: you should listen to it not looking at! :mrgreen:
The cool thing about techno still, comparing it to most jazz is the improvisation coupled with raw energy.

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by TheDriller » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:09 pm

Staying in Live for all writing and sound design,

maybe export the multi-tracks to Reaper for the final mizdown if the plugin latency compensation bugs aren't fixed.

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by andydes » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:42 pm

Stick with 8. That's as much incentive for them to get it right as if I stop using it. I think we might see a real big overhaul next version though. Get the impression they can't squeeze much more out of current architecture. Could mean more of a wait if i'm right though.

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by ze2be » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:52 pm

McQ714 wrote:just a bit of motivation for them to get it right.
Dude.. :roll:

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by nathannn » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:57 pm

why would i buy one of the other programs if live 9 doesn't "deliver"
you don't think i have checked out the other programs before settling on live?
every program you listed besides live is a pain in the ass for a musician.

there are some things i would like ableton to borrow from other apps (like cubase's automatic tempo mapping)
but i would not buy cubase just for one feature that im only going to use maybe once a month.

though i would like features like better tempo mapping i would rather have the newest version of live to be totally innovative and move towards the future. to me the future (actually present) is about multi touch and unique interfaces that you get with the ipad.
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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by McQ714 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:42 pm

I'm not whining here.. just curious as to what DAWs you guys have thought to switch over to.
And with regards to them getting it right, I was referring to Live 9. There are quite a few features that many of the users want to see and some that have waited too long. They are paying customers. You go to subway and you get a sandwich exactly how you want it, right? And that's only $5. We spend hundreds on software and for it to be missing anything just seems unacceptable at times.

So, if you are truly disappointed with the features Ableton leaves out or even the ones they do add in Live 9, would you stop buying their software/upgrades and look to some other developer for your main DAW?

I see threads like Presonus Studio Artist no-brainer for $30 and people praising the software and that leads me to believe that some of you have tried and do like other DAWs. Do you like them enough to switch? Do they have features that you wish Live had? A few guys use Logic or Pro Tools for final mixing. I'm sure there are guys that conceive in programs like Fruity Loops or Reason and then bounce the stems to Live or Cubase.

Now, personally speaking, I'm perfectly happy with Live but I have considered trying other DAWs. I came from using Reason exclusively to using Live almost exclusively. I just wonder if I would benefit from another programs workflow even more.

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by mholloway » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:47 pm

good lord we've gotten bored here.
my industrial music made with Ableton Live (as DEAD WHEN I FOUND HER): https://deadwhenifoundher.bandcamp.com/
my dark jazz / noir music made with Ableton Live: https://michaelarthurholloway.bandcamp. ... guilt-noir

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by savyurrecords » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:26 pm

McQ714 wrote: There are quite a few features that many of the users want to see and some that have waited too long. They are paying customers. You go to subway and you get a sandwich exactly how you want it, right? And that's only $5. We spend hundreds on software and for it to be missing anything just seems unacceptable at times.
You pay for a license to use the software. You do not own it. You cannot eat it

No software is perfect and free from "missing anything"

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Re: If Live 9 doesn't deliver...

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:34 pm

I'm more looking forward to the features the forum hasn't thought of.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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Re: If Live 9 doesn\'t deliver...

Post by nathannn » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:49 pm

ChiDJSynchro wrote:Digital Performer will deliver.
you again.. huh?
The Push / Novation Launch Pad / Novation Launch Pad Pro / Novation Launch Key
/ Launch Control XL / Machine MkII / Machine Studio / BeatStep / Livid OhmRGB / Livid Code V2 / Apc 40 MKII

no computers or synths

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