snapping the END of a clip to the grid - how?

[wayfinder]

In arrangement view, I'm trying to align a reversed hit so that it ends on a beat, but I don't want to warp the sample. Is there a way to snap the end of the clip to the grid without cutting off the end of the sample? When I move the clip around, it only snaps the clip start to the grid.

[seattletruth]

In arrangement view, I'm trying to align a reversed hit so that it ends on a beat, but I don't want to warp the sample. Is there a way to snap the end of the clip to the grid without cutting off the end of the sample? When I move the clip around, it only snaps the clip start to the grid.

i ran into the exact same problem... the only solution is to turn off the grid

but in reality you do not want a reversed hit to end EXACTLY at the end of the beat anyway, it should overlap into the next beat a lil bit.. so it works out with the grid off cuz you would need it off anyway to line it up perfectly.

[wayfinder]

In arrangement view, I'm trying to align a reversed hit so that it ends on a beat, but I don't want to warp the sample. Is there a way to snap the end of the clip to the grid without cutting off the end of the sample? When I move the clip around, it only snaps the clip start to the grid.

i ran into the exact same problem... the only solution is to turn off the grid

but in reality you do not want a reversed hit to end EXACTLY at the end of the beat anyway, it should overlap into the next beat a lil bit.. so it works out with the grid off cuz you would need it off anyway to line it up perfectly.

So it's not possible? Damn.

edit wait i have an idea: I could use the unreversed sample, append silence until the next beat, ctrl-j, reverse, BAM!

Workaround, although a fix would have been better.

[seattletruth]

edit wait i have an idea: I could use the unreversed sample, append silence until the next beat, ctrl-j, reverse, BAM!

Workaround, although a fix would have been better.

I don't understand the point of doing that... Because you could save that new sample with the appended silence, but it will still only work for "that song".. If you turn the beat grid back on (to something like 1 measure) it will let you control-click and drag (to copy) and retain it's same grid orientation anyway.. So you can put it in other parts of your song without manually syncing it again anyway.

What advantage does your method offer?

[wayfinder]

I don't understand your question. Maybe I wasn't being clear enough before.

Let me try again:

What do I want to do? Snap the end of a sample to the grid without warping the sample or cutting anything off.

What's the problem? Live will only let me snap the start of a sample to the grid, not the end.

How do I do it?

1. Reverse the sample
2. Add another audio clip directly behind it. You can snap clips to the end of another clip. This clip should be silent (I just use a second copy of my sample and turn the volume all the way down)
3. Trim the second clip so that it ends on a beat measure.
4. Join the two clips into one sample
5. Reverse it again. I can still only snap the sample start to the grid, but I've made sure that the sample ends squarely on a beat so in effect I can snap the end of the sample to the grid without warping it or cutting anything off.

This process is complex, but it does do exactly what I want. I wish Live could snap the ends of clip the same way it can snap the start though.

And yes, this will only make the sample work for that one tempo, but that's okay with me.

[lowbias]

If I understand your problem correctly, here's how I do it...

Drag your sample into the arrangement view.

Double click the clip to get it showing in clip view.

Turn warping on for the clip. This will set the start and end areas from [sample] time to bars-beats-sixteenths. Set the end to some even bar. For the clip I'm working with, when I turn on warping, the start point is 1-1-1 and the end point is 1-3-1. I change the end point to 2-1-1.

Move the clip into place so it ends where you would like it to. Since you've set the clip to be some number of full bars in length, and if you've got snap to grid turned on, the end of the clip will fall exactly on the grid. Reverse the clip.

There seems to be some wonky thing in Live that messes with the sample in the clip. Just drag the beginning of the clip left a bit and it will right itself, without actually changing the clip. Maybe this is a bug?

This is a super quick and accurate way of getting a sample to reverse and end exactly on a grid mark.

[wayfinder]

If I understand your problem correctly, here's how I do it...

Drag your sample into the arrangement view.

Double click the clip to get it showing in clip view.

Turn warping on for the clip. This will set the start and end areas from [sample] time to bars-beats-sixteenths. Set the end to some even bar. For the clip I'm working with, when I turn on warping, the start point is 1-1-1 and the end point is 1-3-1. I change the end point to 2-1-1.

Move the clip into place so it ends where you would like it to. Since you've set the clip to be some number of full bars in length, and if you've got snap to grid turned on, the end of the clip will fall exactly on the grid. Reverse the clip.

There seems to be some wonky thing in Live that messes with the sample in the clip. Just drag the beginning of the clip left a bit and it will right itself, without actually changing the clip. Maybe this is a bug?

This is a super quick and accurate way of getting a sample to reverse and end exactly on a grid mark.

But doesn't that warp it? If it has a tight timing, does that stay intact? I'm currently not on a system where I have Live installed, but I'll check later.

[wayfinder]

But doesn't that warp it? If it has a tight timing, does that stay intact? I'm currently not on a system where I have Live installed, but I'll check later.

Ok so apparently turning on warp doesn't change the sample but you can't simply reverse it, you have to consolidate before you do that. Otherwise, this works quite fast. Thank you!

[longjohns]

How do I do it?

2. Add another audio clip directly behind it. You can snap clips to the end of another clip. This clip should be silent (I just use a second copy of my sample and turn the volume all the way down)
3. Trim the second clip so that it ends on a beat measure.
4. Join the two clips into one sample

these 3 steps seem unnecessary. just select the sample, plus "empty" time behind it, up to the next grid line, and consolidate. then reverse.

IOW skip creating the second clip, and the trimming of it

?

[wayfinder]

Hahah life can be so simple, thank you!