appregiator?

maze23a · Post by **maze23a** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:31 pm

Can anyone explain me
in simple words what is an appregiator good for?

Thanxx

ejectorset · Post by **ejectorset** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:37 pm

80's music!

basically with an arpeggiator you hold down a chord and it (based on settings) alternates through the notes of the chord (up, down, up and down, etc) and whatever interval you already set, ie 8th notes 16th notes.

you can then change what chord you are holding and it will apply the same settings cycling through the notes of the new chord and so on.

maze23a · Post by **maze23a** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:42 pm

That was fast,thank you.

I think i got a clue now but i also think
i have to check one out to really see and understand!

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:47 pm

think Oxia's Etat De Spre (sp?)

Terry used to close with that track - Carls rocked it quit a bit back in the day

Trance Music uses it quit a bit but not to be confused with a gate because like Ejectorset said it alternates between notes - i love it - very cool

conny · Post by **conny** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:56 pm

ejectorset wrote: basically with an arpeggiator you hold down a chord and it (based on settings) alternates through the notes of the chord

Yes, that's maybe the right definition but in my mind arps are most often (like in UDO's StringTheory and others) fed one tone and then producing ups and downs from that one in, typically, one octave or two.
There were arps on monophonic good ol' days synths as well!

// C

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:35 pm

I think the electronic arpeggiator we know today was invented to overcome the monophony of the early synths. At first they were probably just monophonic sequencers controlled by the output of the keyboard. These produced the octave up/down monotony. Then came the arp, that broke up the chords into single tones. Then the hybrid (c1-e1-g1-c2-e2-g2-e2-c2-g1-e1...)

I'd love to find a good resource on the history of arps and sequencers, but until I do, I'm just going to gawk at the beauty that is the new live arp
- and then I'll hold my breath until I get to do a keyboard solo with it :-D

conny · Post by **conny** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:19 pm

I do agree.
It's like sequencers and arps were a leep in the musical history, with some connection to the piano roll and repetition in "tribal" rythms.

// C

Kas. · Post by **Kas.** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:59 am

conny wrote:I do agree.
It's like sequencers and arps were a leep in the musical history, with some connection to the piano roll and repetition in "tribal" rythms.

// C

Well, the "arpegio" already existed since the early days of classical music. A composer would note what noters it involved and perhaps use a little sign to indicate wether it should go up or down and leave the rest to the musician.

I don´t think arpegiators were a real leap in musical history or influenced by tribal rithems at all but I don think you could call that the point where the line between the musician and the intrument realy started to blur in electronic music and the musician started to become more like a conductor and a composer at the same time instead of purely a instrumentalist.

Acidentally; yesterday morning I build a realy simple one as a demonstration, you may be interested in that since it deals with a modular too and you´re into plogue Click ME. I do think you need to be a registered Tassman user to download my patch but there´s a explanation too.....

Airbase · Post by **Airbase** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:24 am

Let me demonstrate with a sound file.

www.airbase.nu/demo/arp.mp3

This is a melody playing, the first round is just chords on every 4th beat, simple chords playing a melody. After that, comes the same chords, only this time as an arpeggio. There are hundreds of arpeggios, all synths has different ones, some vsts has some built in, some dont. The most common (as far as I know) is that you make your own arpeggios by putting down notes yourself (like I did with this sample)

Is it more clear to you now?

P.S. this is a 2 min job, so dont beat me up because of the quality of the clip.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:39 am

while we're demonstrating arpeggios, here's an example I did a while back-
it's basically a demo of the arpeggiator in the Doepfer Schaltwerk. It's very tweakable, since the individual steps in the sequence can be toggled on/off.

http://ampfea.org/2/1309
Streaming: http://www.ampfea.org/stream.php?t=1309&stream=1

dub · Post by **dub** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:39 am

check Who's Next from The Who, there's a great use of arpeggiators in it.
Won't get fooled again should let you know what an arp is

m.

Kas. · Post by **Kas.** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:00 pm

dub wrote:check Who's Next from The Who, there's a great use of arpeggiators in it.
Won't get fooled again should let you know what an arp is 8)

m.

Yeah, I think Pete Townsend used to use a Arp Avatar.
:¬p

masturfader · Post by **masturfader** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:27 pm