tips against feedback on livevocalz+vocoder?please help

maomakmaa · Post by **maomakmaa** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:41 pm

hi folkz!

in my liveactz i do many livevocalz,distorted,vocoder,pitched,etc...
now the problem:
in the most clubs i`ve many trouble with the FEEDBACK on my microphone.
the gate doesn work right,it`s to loud in the clubs and if it`s open(the gate),often there is a feedback in the same moment the gate opens.

is there a plugin like a feedbackdestroyer?

would a hardware-feedback-destroyer work? mic in feedbackdestroyer,after it in the PC/FX???
would behringer shark feedbackkiller help?

http://www.musik-service.de/ProduX/Reco ... DSP110.htm

your livevocals work fine in the clubs?

ok,Peace+Thx,erich

www.erichlesovsky.de

Isomer · Post by **Isomer** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:57 am

I too am in search for tips on this same problem. One would think a gate would solve this problem but as you've said, it can be too loud in the clubs!

I have one track where I use an INTENSE amount of reverb on my mic with a really long decay time. No way in hell can I open that session up without instant feedback...

Thoughts anyone...?

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:12 am

you try rolling off some of the bass in your mic channel?
usually its the bass frequencies that cause feedback first.
and unless you're barry white, you probably don't need most of those frequencies anyway, at least not in the stage environment.

kimyo · Post by **kimyo** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:49 am

i suggest that you try in ear monitors. otherwise the mic picks up the music bleeding through behind you and the loops get real muddy real quick.

plus you can hear yourself better through a decent set of in ear monitors than most any stage monitors.

kim

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:07 am

Maybe mic selection will help a lot too......

The air in clubs is just filled to the brim....

My guess is a standard SM58's pickup pattern is large enough to get a
crapload of reflections into it. Maybe headset mics or those designed to be
very close to the mouth can help........

btw a somewhat destructive (it strips good frequencies too)way of checking
feedback frequencies during sound check is to turn up the gain until
feedback starts, remove that frequency on the graphic (or on a VST in this
case), then turn the gain up more until the feedback starts again, remove
the freq, rince repeat until you can turn it way up without feedback...... Of
course this won't get rid of reflection trouble from ringy vocals being
feedback looped, but might help with the basics.

A feedback destroyer might work... tho might destroy the effect u'r after too.

-Ben

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:49 am

Another tip: avoid excessive compression on your vox. This brings up the "floor" level of your signal, which, because it is actually being raised, may be contributing to feedback. The other thing is monitor/PA system placement. Obviously you don't want your monitors behind the axis of the mic, tho a lot of clubs/booths are set up this way. Vocal wedges on the floor are the ideal for minimising feedback.

If you are playing out in the throw range of the PA then you're going to get a whole heap of problems. You want to establish whether it is your monitors or the front of house system that your mic is feeding back through, and then use the graphic frequency-cutting technique described above.

maomakmaa · Post by **maomakmaa** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:30 am

cool tips!thx!
i think i found some bad "settings" in my FX ( compression) and the fuckin
monitor box was direct behind me sometimes.

i`ll try the tips,
peace&eat the rich,
eric

www.erichlesovsky.de

tips against feedback on livevocalz+vocoder?please help

tips against feedback on livevocalz+vocoder?please help

good tips,thx a lot ! ! ! !