ANyone know how to make a good sub bass?

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2be
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Re: ANyone know how to make a good sub bass?

Post by 2be » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:16 pm

Oh, of course. Sorry for the confusion!

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Re: ANyone know how to make a good sub bass?

Post by The Northern Contingent » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:59 pm

Take a look at the video below. Works a treat in Ableton...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQf0Jiq ... r_embedded

Enjoy!

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Re: ANyone know how to make a good sub bass?

Post by DubLifeSD » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:55 pm

Sine + Square > Saturation/Dist > Low Pass EQ, with a little resonant boost around the fundamental frequency.

The key here is harmonics. Sure, a simple sine wave will rumble but it all comes down to psychoacoustics. You want the perception of HUGE sound. You want to be able to feel and hear it in a track.

Also, a lot of people forget to mess with modulation and pitch on subbass!! Just experiment.

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Re: ANyone know how to make a good sub bass?

Post by memes_33 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:33 pm

someone once told me that the sub bass is mostly for the "feel"- that rumble in your chest when you hear it loud/through a big system. if you are adding sub bass freqs to an existing bassline, sine waves are best cuz they have no harmonics- its pure chest rumblin'

if you are using a sub bass as a different part, i.e. it doesn't directly mirror you existing not-so-sub bass part, then you want people to hear it when they are not listening on big systems. the way your brain works, harmonics of bass notes will give you a perception of the fundamental bass notes even if your speakers or headphones don't go down to that fundamental. that's how those shitty Bose wave radios work- they reproduce a harmonic of the fundamental bass notes that the speakers themselves cannot reproduce. that's why your average idiot thinks they have such a great bass response.

so if you want your sub bass transparent, i.e. to sound like an extension of the bass part, use a sine wave. it won't muddy up your not-so-sub bass part an octave up because it is strictly the fundamental with little or no harmonics.

if you want your sub bass to be its own entity, i.e. a separate part that is different from the other bass part, use a square or saw or whatever your preference and filter it to taste.
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Re: ANyone know how to make a good sub bass?

Post by pucklermuskau » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:07 pm

@The Northern Contingent, love love love the corpus effect. Great range of character you can get out of that...
i drop on the lokeymassive

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