White Noise with pitch?

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by ansiaaa » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:55 pm

I'm amazed how you guys can come up with these solutions :)
I've been learning a lot about basic sound synthesis just by reading this forum...

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:46 pm

sample some white noise , load it to simpler and then turn the pitch up ?

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by ARDJ » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:56 pm

Tweaking Knobs wrote:sample some white noise , load it to simpler and then turn the pitch up ?

awww you beat me to it!

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by 8TROW8 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:37 pm

big thanks to everyones help will be home soon so going to experiment as soon as im back. thanks again people will let you know my results :D

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by 8TROW8 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:55 pm

Alano Tekashi wrote:
8TROW8 wrote:This is alot better example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2sTu-9Vn48

26 secs to 40 secs.

This might be more clearer as its during an intro.
Allright I see what you mean. Keep in mind that you hear multiple sweeps in that particular part. There's one sweep in the front which is just a white noise sweep with the lowpass filter being turned open. Add some reverb and highpass to that (play a little with it for the best result) and you'll be fine.

The other one on the background, which is indeed pitching up, is a little tricky. What you can do is use the operator and put a square wave on a and a white noise on b. Make sure you set the routing right. Choose the one in the right bottom corner
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Anyway. Play with the levels of a and b so that they sound proper together. Now you can use the pitch bend automation to make it rise. And you'll need a lowpass filter on this one as well. You might need a chorus filter to make it a little "wider" or give it some character. If you find it too muddy, low cut/eq it.

Hopefully this helps a little.


edit: I'll try to create an example when I'm at home.
Thanks for that detailed reply dude.

The noise wave into the square wave doesnt seem to worth too well together they seem to distort each other its hard to explain youll see when you try it. my best results so far are white noise in operator with a flange on a very low LFO rate and no phase its really starting to come into its own now and sound abit more interesting.

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by Alano Tekashi » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:13 pm

Ok, it's not exactly the same as the autosave sweep, but here's what I made in aprox 10 minutes (you can turn of the lfo if you like, but I thought it sounded alright)

http://rapidshare.com/files/455885986/SWEEP.als

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by ansiaaa » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:23 pm

funken wrote:
ansiaaa wrote:try this then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-6XcOa8gHs

I'm not at home right now so I can't experiment
this one is easy, its just a cutoff filter being opened up
yeah that was my point for his second example.

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by drchoc » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:31 pm

Stick the resonator device over your white noise 8)

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:12 pm

i didnt heard the examle before posting ,


i think like many `people said here , is just resonance aka : res ;-)


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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by 8TROW8 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:03 am

Alano Tekashi wrote:Ok, it's not exactly the same as the autosave sweep, but here's what I made in aprox 10 minutes (you can turn of the lfo if you like, but I thought it sounded alright)

http://rapidshare.com/files/455885986/SWEEP.als
Cheers for this, will try it out as soon as im home from work tonight. :lol:

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by 8TROW8 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:39 pm

BIG PROPS to Tekashi this is wicked thanks mate 8)

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by dsu » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:33 pm

One thing to be aware of is flecher munson curves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher%E ... son_curves

Basically as the volume of the while noice increase the ear become more aware of the high frequency content. With pitched material there is a subtle timbre change but with white noise the effect is more pronouced.

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by ansiaaa » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:55 pm

funken wrote:
ansiaaa wrote:
funken wrote: this one is easy, its just a cutoff filter being opened up
yeah that was my point for his second example.
yeah sorry if I was repeating you!
lol chill out man! you don't really need to get offended here :D
I was just saying that like "yeah you are right, you got my point"

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Re: White Noise with pitch?

Post by Alano Tekashi » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:23 pm

8TROW8 wrote:BIG PROPS to Tekashi this is wicked thanks mate 8)

No problem man use it as you like! ;-)
I suppose you found out that inside the clip you can edit the automation curves?

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