RENDER TO Wonderfulness! - Live 4 is heaven!

tekkers · Post by **tekkers** » Sat May 21, 2005 12:57 pm

well - i sequence all my stuff at 16bit 44.1 - softsynths and all.... then render at 96k 24bits.... and wooo - it comes out better soundin that what i started with..

i aint complaining

orange · Post by **orange** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:48 pm

I am using the lite version of ableton live (the one that came with my m-audio 410 interface) on a 1,5 ghz powerpook and I have the same problem. when I play my live-session everything sounds great but when i render it, the whole audio file becomes distorted, especially when the bassdrum kicks in.
I solved this problem by turning the master volume down, but then again the audio file is not loud enough (compared to my other work or mp3s).
(I don´t have another mastering program like logic)

I have not been using live for that long, but I really love it. If someone could help and tell me what I could do, I would really be glad.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:54 pm

orange, while your track is playing - look at the light above the master fader... does it light up at the top? It probably is, meaning that you're distorting the output. turn the fader down/use a limiter/compressor, whatever.

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:04 pm

my loverly sheep cant hear the sound quality diffrence anyways!! , i dont see what the problem is.

my hens are a different matter all together though..............................evil plotting beak brigade!

conny · Post by **conny** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:16 pm

My spider Gunnar in the darkest corner of my room stops doing repairs on his web at times. Means my outputs are not in order.
Keep an eye on Gunnar and you'll all be fine.
I lost him for a while (the vacuum cleaner!), but now it's alright again (vacuum cleaner disembodied).

[... I'm just bored, don't take attention...]

// C

Livewire · Post by **Livewire** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:54 pm

so using the normalize option while render wont mess up the sound quality right? is it safe to use it? or is it a better idea to do normalizing/mastering in a different application? (I use Audition).

Harris.Andrew · Post by **Harris.Andrew** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:08 am

Livewire wrote:so using the normalize option while render wont mess up the sound quality right? is it safe to use it? or is it a better idea to do normalizing/mastering in a different application? (I use Audition).

To be, ya know, anal about it - Live is _better_

It's, getting into relatively banal / non-creative topics like dithering . . . search the forums, there's good info.

Vercengetorex · Post by **Vercengetorex** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:37 am

Speaking on the mastering side of things... What about allowing Live to render @ 32bit floating-point? Just a thought for down the road...

Just in case you are one of those really anal types.

olafmol · Post by **olafmol** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:10 am

orange wrote:I am using the lite version of ableton live (the one that came with my m-audio 410 interface) on a 1,5 ghz powerpook and I have the same problem. when I play my live-session everything sounds great but when i render it, the whole audio file becomes distorted, especially when the bassdrum kicks in.
I solved this problem by turning the master volume down, but then again the audio file is not loud enough (compared to my other work or mp3s).
(I don´t have another mastering program like logic)

I have not been using live for that long, but I really love it. If someone could help and tell me what I could do, I would really be glad.

you need to re-arrange your gain structure, to avoid live from clipping when rendering to disk.... indeed try to avoid the red clipping light to light up .... an alternative is to put a mastering limiter plugin on the master output, and make sure it doesn't peak over 0 dB .... a third option is to simply record the output from your soundcard ...

Olaf

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:10 am

i'm sorry, but in my heart of hearts i cannot stand the title of this post.

i would rather have 1000 sasha posts than to look upot this bullshit post ever again.

may it perish.

may it sink to the depths beyond anyone's reason.

please, never another reply.

-lm

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:20 am

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:From what I gather, the ASIO compression issue is what brought about the demand for such products as the Dangerous Audio 8 Bus.

while i'm at it... This is the whole problem with the audio industry. We've forgotten the first rule. And that is; Is what we are recording worth saving???

Fuck all this horseshit about analog vs digital summing. It skirts the issue!!!! are we making art worth experiencing? That is the question!

A skilled engineer should be able to make a better recording on a 4 track casette player than a shit engineer on a protools HD system. If you cannot see this, you are an idiot.

-lm.

Sorry, this is just lashing out against the title, once again, and the foolishness of that title.

nolus · Post by **nolus** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:44 pm

with me it just sort of happens, withou having to....

oh, wait, it says render, not remember!

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:54 pm

I agree with Muffin 100%.

And I appreciate the irony of resuscitating a post from weeks ago for the sake of of asking others to never reply again.

k-cee · Post by **k-cee** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:48 am

Everytime I tried rendering to disk as a wav file, my other software (Winamp, Media player, Nero) all cannot recognise the file. What's goin on?

anti-banausic · Post by **anti-banausic** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:58 am

Dunno, I seem to be fine with iTUnes. Every rendered file has always played perfectly there.

FWIW...YMMV...etc....

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