AVG is killing my system, which AV is best with audio ?

[twisted-space]

Long time (15+ years) IT technician/consultant. I have lots of clients that use Symantec endpoint protection. Personally I hate it, it's resource heavy, slow and unreliable. Mcafee is even worse IMHO.
Purely based on personal experience, I will never allow anything by either company on any of my machines.

[synnack]

FFS - if your going to become a walking talking advert for your company - ask ableton dave to change your name appropriately.
You aint the only corp person here - thankfully most such people choose to be just users - not corp sales pluggers.

Im kind of surprised as well - what your doing would have got me in the shit with my ex-employer - we were told very specifically, neutrally advise, politely correct, ideally by providing links to published facts etc and above all - dont piss people off in the name of your company and respect the fact that some people's opinions might be very much against the company and/or its products for one reason or another - direct experience being one of them.

Im free of that now, so I have no need whatsoever to be polite anymore whatsoever - so take your company's junk and shove it where the sun don't shine

We shouldnt blame you really - corporate brainwashing programs etc... See a doctor, get yourself signed off for six months, get wasted, get laid, become human again instead of corporate droid.

BTW - I have to wonder with your referenced reading if you were a hacker wannabe, but too young to have been around when people learned to defend out of necessity just to keep your own little bit of the internet up and running? Them were the days...

There is no actual factual statement in your response that disproves anything I've said. I suppose this is typical of threads of this type. You cannot prove that anything I've said is inaccurate of course, so you accuse me of being a corporate drone. Want to prove me brainwashed? Go ahead. let's talk facts. Prove what I've said to be incorrect. Let's see who is drinking Koolaid and who has been in this industry 10+ years and may actually have good advice on the topic.

I don't really give a shit what you use. My views expressed are mine and not of my employer. Use nothing. Use free AV. Whatever you want. But insulting me with no factual evidence that my opinions are wrong does not make me seem like the h4x0r brainwashed kid...

I only comment on these threads, not to push a particular product, but to help people who's ideas on AV are so old they make bad decisions. It is a fact people still believe you can't get infected if you don't connect directly to the internet. It's a fact that people still believe as long as you don't actually download and double click something, you can't get infected. It is a fact that people still believe that if you "only go to good sites" you will not get infected. All of those things are DEAD WRONG. regardless of where you work or what product you advocate. This is not marketing. Some may find it useful to learn this.

Anyway, I'm fairly sure what I just did was respond to flame bait so I'll not bother you further with any data on this unless directly asked. If someone wants more info on any of this PM me. Otherwise I'll try to avoid the flame bait and insult train.

[crumhorn]

Please resist turning this into a flame war.

I value everyone's advice.

The problem I had with AVG is that it has many services that you simply can not be shut down without uninstalling it. These services seem to want to run constantly in the background and are always actively doing something and have large amounts of memory allocated to them. Typically they are performing tasks which could easily be put off until later, but instead they keep fighting with Live over the available RAM and cause massive amounts of disk traffic to the swap file.

So basically I'm looking for anything that does not do that!

My system performance has improved massively since I got rid of AVG and put on MSSE. Live launches in a few seconds now compared to nearly a minute previously.

If I find I still have problems and can trace the cause to MSSE then I'll have to look at one of the other options that people have mentioned.

I'm still getting a few performance problems, but I have yet to track them down. It's really annoying - I know this PC can do the job because it has worked perfectly for running Live before. Something has changed, probably due to something I installed or a system update (like AVG 2011), I just need to track it down.

Also these PC world round ups are quite interesting:

Top 5 Paid Antivirus for 2011: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collecti ... id_av.html
Top 5 Free Antivirus for 2011: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collecti ... ee_av.html

[JuanSOLO]

tempus3r never came across as some one brainwashed by a company making a sales pitch. In fact, he never clearly states or recommends something specifically in a way that he could have. However he did make some statements to support his point. Some people give back strong to this community and many of you guys are quick to take it out of context and flame on with it.

Nevertheless it's always good to see who's about what around here and how they handle things. Makes it easy to discern post worthiness.

[Anubis]

I use Avast because it has a 'gaming' mode where it doesn't interrupt you when it downloads signatures or updates. One of the PC's at work got infected by a very nasty trojan and nothing could stop it. Except... Malwarebytes' free utility. I run that in safe mode(with networking) every couple weeks and it picks up things the others leave behind.

[synnack]

Please resist turning this into a flame war.

I value everyone's advice.

The problem I had with AVG is that it has many services that you simply can not be shut down without uninstalling it. These services seem to want to run constantly in the background and are always actively doing something and have large amounts of memory allocated to them. Typically they are performing tasks which could easily be put off until later, but instead they keep fighting with Live over the available RAM and cause massive amounts of disk traffic to the swap file.

Ugh that sucks. With some products I've used you can actually make a batch file that runs "net stop ServiceName" (where ServiceName are the services for the product you use) before opening Live or going on stage and they all shut down. Then after a show or session run the other batch file which was "net start ServiceName".

[crumhorn]

^^^ well I could always just kill the processes I suppose But there is no telling what problems that might cause.

Aren't PCs fun!

[McQ714]

this is the type of bullshit that i would expect to hear from the "world largest antivirus company".

there is no way in hell that an antivirus software should be heavy on a CPU.... it should only have to monitor known definciencies in the OS. that's it!!! and who actually knows of those definciencies better than the OS developer themselves???

This statement establishes that you have no credibility in this discussion. Did you really just say "who better to protect you against OS vulnerabilities are the people who made them in the first place"? lol

This statement establishes that you don't know how to copy paste.. and misquote people!

tell you what... i'd install Norton on my computer just to run it and see if it actually finds anything that MSE didn't. so if you wanna send me a free copy...

[Moody]

^^^ well I could always just kill the processes I suppose But there is no telling what problems that might cause.

Aren't PCs fun!

Let's not blame the platform for poorly coded services.

[Moody]

this is the type of bullshit that i would expect to hear from the "world largest antivirus company".

there is no way in hell that an antivirus software should be heavy on a CPU.... it should only have to monitor known definciencies in the OS. that's it!!! and who actually knows of those definciencies better than the OS developer themselves???

This statement establishes that you have no credibility in this discussion. Did you really just say "who better to protect you against OS vulnerabilities are the people who made them in the first place"? lol

This statement establishes that you don't know how to copy paste.. and misquote people!

tell you what... i'd install Norton on my computer just to run it and see if it actually finds anything that MSE didn't. so if you wanna send me a free copy...

http://us.norton.com/downloads/trialsoftware/index.jsp

[crumhorn]

Dont take tempus3rs word for it, check out the PC World reviews I posted a few post's back and you will see that they seem to be of the same opinion.

compare

In malware detection and removal, Norton AntiVirus put out strong all-around scores. It detected 98.7 percent of malware samples...

Norton also put up strong scores in the blocking of real-world malware attacks (a measure of how well a product can block actual malware): Norton completely blocked 24 of the 25 samples thrown at it, but it did miss one sample completely

With

Microsoft Security Essentials lagged behind the top performers in our recent antivirus roundup at detecting malware using traditional scanner-based detection methods (which rely predominantly on malware definition files), detecting 92.7 percent of samples...


Security Essentials logged the lowest score in tests to see how well it could block real, live malware attacks. In these real-world attack tests, it completely blocked 64 percent of attacks, and partially blocked an additional 8 percent of attacks.

[H20nly]

@ crumhorn, i had to stop reading all that ^ bickering so forgive me if i repeat anything..

i use Avast and have for years. it has a great boot time scan that really helps get a virus out if one manages to get in via some other method. i've also used Avast to fix PCs that were infected when their big time corporate vendor's software failed.

still, more than plugging what i use what i really wanted to say is this... have you checked your settings? some software (corporate version of ESET being one of them) are set to "scan files on creation" by default. if you think about it... you could see where a setting like this could impede music production... i know you record guitars (because i've heard them and they sound fanfukintastic) so Live audio vs MIDI file creation is a big resource piggy by contrast.

alot of AV programs have gaming modes and sometimes you can even set the software to automatically go into silent mode when certain conditions occur (i.e. Live is opened).

so check the available settings on what ever you try, but always remember to uninstall any previous AV software before installing a new one, otherwise the two could bump heads and bring your system to its knees.

good luck.

[araz]

I prefer to run a script that shuts down networking and anti-virus along with other unnecessary services while musicing.

I really like this idea. Can you tell us a bit more about the script. Can we write it ourselves, download it, etc.?

Araz

[Moody]

I prefer to run a script that shuts down networking and anti-virus along with other unnecessary services while musicing.

I really like this idea. Can you tell us a bit more about the script. Can we write it ourselves, download it, etc.?

Araz

Are you using Windows?

[araz]

Are you using Windows?

Yes, I'm using Vista with Avast.

Araz