Help on making things glitchy!

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Mike145
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Help on making things glitchy!

Post by Mike145 » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:02 pm

Hey guys, i was just wondering if anyone can give me any tips on getting things sounding real glitchy... kinda like in this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s547YksfsQ

im making a tune right now with kind of a disco feel, but im really have trouble chopping it up like that, any help would be appreciated! :) also im shitty at making disco stabs

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Re: Help on making things glitchy!

Post by oddstep » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:31 am

it sounds like a lot of it is tight arranging of samples... make synth leads, drum patterns etc, sample them and then use those samples as the instruments, like you're working with breaks. or just chop up the audio in arrange view. the track is viciously compressed, there's a bit reducing distortion being used and there is also a retriggering effect on some of the sounds that i would achieve through the use of an arp playing a sample. the jaggedness (glitchyness) comes from the quality of the sound combined with the abrupt end of every sample used.that and the syncopated funk of his rhythmskills.

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Re: Help on making things glitchy!

Post by Mike145 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:43 pm

Im a little confused as to why you would sample your synths and drums and w.e instead of doing fast edits of midi notes? can you explain this please, thanks for the reply btw

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Re: Help on making things glitchy!

Post by Angstrom » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:31 am

to glitch it up properly you need to operate on samples of your work. There are a number of reasons ranging from the sharpness and gateyness to the way you can shift the frame of reference of the listener by simply pitching or modulating the sample. It's possible to do this in MIDI , but really that's like playing a guitar solo on a Banjo. If you want that effect, you do it on sampled audio. There are tools (toys) to do this, however I prefer to do any glitch effects by hand edit. With an electron microscope and a serious look on my face.

of course the whole glitch thing has been done to death over the last 10 years or so, it was the hip thing before autotune abuse so you might want to go easy on that shit. Or alternatively go glitch crazy and put a Jan Hammer solo on top of it, like a boss. What the hell do I know ;)

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Re: Help on making things glitchy!

Post by regretfullySaid » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:28 am

Ditto. Gather your samples, go into Arrangement and get surgical by shredding them microscopically; also try making a new melody by changing the pitches from the same samples (like a 1/4th note violin stab -> Pitch 0, -2, 6, 5) Basically, don't get too attached to a 1 bar loop; rip them apart, shake them up so they're mingled together all the way down to 1/128ths if you want to be a madman, at least in the context of what you're trying to do.
Kind of tired of the glitch pissing contest but some still sounds cool; like the Kolt13 track, makes me think of Beetroots hyper little brother in a good way, though got annoying after the 3 minute mark...
Don't forget to not just use the beginning of the samples, use different segments of time from them when you're cutting them up.
Get microscopic on that shit!
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Re: Help on making things glitchy!

Post by juanlittledevil » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:02 pm

+3 on the "work with samples here." it's so much quicker to remember the old command-d, c, etc then throw a frequency shifter to do these dips or rises in pitch. Working with samples will actually save you a lot of time if you get to know all your tools.

My partner likes to do the chops and edits on the clips themselves. I tend to use the arrange view for this. Either way you choose is always helpful to resample, freeze, crop, and/or consolidate you edits into new clips so you get a clear view of what's happening in your arrangement. If you do these edits in the clip this even more important as changes in volume aren't represented in the wave display when you expand your clip in the arrange view.

Anyway, I'm sure I've just confused you even more...

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Re: Help on making things glitchy!

Post by reeloy » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:32 pm

....+4.....

Thats the glitchy way it is....resample yourself....

Just take all the midi tracks you have an chop/slice them into new samplerinstruments and take it from there....you won't get there by editing midi attached to a realttime synth....

And check for plugin stuff like stutter edit or effektrix....to go the easy way...

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