sample sharing - royalty question

perplex · Post by **perplex** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:25 pm

lemme ask you this. How would anyone even ever find out it was an 'ableton' kick, unless you told them?

Cezband · Post by **Cezband** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:37 pm

Aren't there different levels of commons licences which say whether you're allowed to change the sound and then release it as your own? And (depending on country), there are general licence rules involving "transformative" work being acceptable - as in, if you change something to the extent it stops resembling the original in any meaningful way, then it's allowed. Which I guess ties in with what perplex said.

Don't quote me on that though. My law degree is made out of alphabetti spaghetti.

memes_33 · Post by **memes_33** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:04 pm

i think that when you buy the software you buy the right to use the sounds within. like, when you buy a keyboard you can use the presets. i don't think you have anything whatsoever to worry about.

ARDJ · Post by **ARDJ** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:42 pm

memes_33 wrote:i think that when you buy the software you buy the right to use the sounds within. like, when you buy a keyboard you can use the presets. i don't think you have anything whatsoever to worry about.

i believe the OP is asking if he can then re-sell the "transformed kick" as if it were his own (say on a sample cd or something). You'd need to look at the Ableton user agreement for that specific pack/kick/sounds etc, it will say what you have a license for. For instance nearly all the vengeance libraries only grant you licenses for mechanical use (ie your own records), they do not grant you using them for sync (ie using a vengeance loop on a TV commercial). Big Fish libraries are pretty 50/50 on sync, there are a lot of other sample cd's that are royalty free on both ends. You just need to read

jaytee · Post by **jaytee** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:59 pm

The short answer is that every sample is licensed differently. You need to check the license to find out how you're allowed to share it.

jestermgee · Post by **jestermgee** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:16 am

Read Abletons license agreement or "terms and conditions".

As another posted said it would be nearly impossible to tell and the laws can differ. The same might be said for a trademark sound of another composer. If you sample just a small segment could it be counted as copyright infringement. If you have created or modified the sound so that it sounds nothing like the original (lets say you put the 2 waveforms side-by-side) and it's not real clear, then there would be nothing to worry about. For someone to file a claim means they would need to prove they own the rights and be able to bring a case against it and for a drum kick or a few it's just not worth it. Now for a full loop that's different.

I guess that if morally you believe that what you have produced has not just been copied from someone else and passed off as yourse then all should be good

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