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pre-unemployment freak out

Post by beats me » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:58 am

So a couple weeks ago I started a post about being canned by The Man. The tone was a mix of "Fuck you The Man!" and "I could probably survive on unemployment for awhile so suck it!"

In a little under two weeks time I will be going into a period of severance (which they tax the shit out of) and then unemployment.

Already the following is preemptively concerning me:

Too much free time.

Too much isolation (spending 40 a week around people can be considered a social life if you really stretch the definition, and most of my local good friends and even close family got the fuck out of dodge over the last year or so. I spend more time with you people :x ).

The state of the job market.

Complete lack of a long term stable future.

All the above fueling a creativity killing and procrastination fueling depression ball.

So I need tips on how to tackle all this, take some time off but also use it productively, and despite the harsh reality of the job market try not to feel like an individual big fat loser! :x

Thanks. :x

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by LoopStationZebra » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:01 am

Your first day without a job, I want you to go out and either buy or make yourself a big canvas.

Then I want you to put on some kick ass tunes, get some cold beer, and start painting something abstract. Anything. Anything at all. Be free, beatsie. FEEL it working through you.

Work on it for just that one day.

Then you'll have that fucking piece of art forever to remember your FIRST DAY OF FREEDOM.

Corny?

Yes.

But you're grandkids will fucking thank me when they say 'cool, Gramps!'.

:x
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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by beats me » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:08 am

^you know, something like that is actually a pretty good idea to mark the occasion by being creative in a different way. :)

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by LoopStationZebra » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:23 am

:x

And you're limited only by your imagination. Glue shit onto the thing then paint around those objects. Take a blowtorch to one corner and lightly burn the canvas. Buy some cheap LED Christmas lights and bunch them up and staple them on...

Or just use paint.

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by Tarekith » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:25 am

Considering how much time you'll be spending looking for a new job, I'm not sure about the "too much free time" comment. I went through the same thing when we moved to Seattle and I had to look for a new job. Best advice I can give is to just treat the job like it's a job itself. You'll have good days, you'll have bad days, but 'go to the office' on time and keep at it every day. I found that being home was distracting at times, so I'd often go to the library and get online to make sure I was working and not wasting time with stuff around the house.

+1 to the painting idea though, that's actually brilliant.

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by beats me » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:43 am

Tarekith wrote:Considering how much time you'll be spending looking for a new job, I'm not sure about the "too much free time" comment. I went through the same thing when we moved to Seattle and I had to look for a new job. Best advice I can give is to just treat the job like it's a job itself. You'll have good days, you'll have bad days, but 'go to the office' on time and keep at it every day. I found that being home was distracting at times, so I'd often go to the library and get online to make sure I was working and not wasting time with stuff around the house.

+1 to the painting idea though, that's actually brilliant.
Hope I don't come off as oblivious to the seriousness of the situation here, but after working at the same job for 5 years I think I deserve some time off. Plus when we get older the retirement age is going to be like 85 and that's if we saved money or don't die by then. So these cyclical layoff periods is probably as close as we're going to get to retirement, and repeat.

But please do explain what 40 hours a week of looking for a job looks like. I can't imagine. 8O

3 of my best long term jobs actually started as a temp so I think temp agencies will be my first stop. Usually companies in tough times turn to temp agencies and I'm more of a "foot in the door" type than hard selling myself for the top slot right out the gate. They're might be a good dose of ignorance in all that too, but it's worked for me in the past.

BTW I found Seattle pretty cool last week. Kind of reminded me of a clean San Francisco. I just wasn't a fan of the ever present clouds and/or rain. I went on a couple tours because we needed to kill some time and for all the talk of Apple fanboys, it can't touch Microsoft's impact on Seattle. Every other building of interest was tied to Microsoft, Bill Gates, or the other Microsoft co-founder...can't remember his name, but that dude tossed money at everything.

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by Tarekith » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:08 am

Paul Allan.

40 hours a week of job hunting was a good week for me, I was usually spending a lot more time than that on it. I think in 1.5 years I filled out roughly 130-140 resumes and cover letters? I was going through 5 temp agencies during that time and only had one offer come through that avenue, and that was to just move furniture for a week (I passed). Not trying to be bleak or a downer, but it's pretty brutal out there right now in the job market, especially with all the college kids just graduating this month.

Anyway, time off is good for sure if you can afford to do that, just don't underestimate how many people are out of work right now and looking for jobs too. Best of luck man, I'm sure you'll find something soon.

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by Styles Bitchly » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:24 am

beats me wrote: I spend more time with you people :x ).
People? There are no people here. We are auto-responder automatons and apparitions.

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by beats me » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:36 am

Tarekith wrote:Paul Allan.

40 hours a week of job hunting was a good week for me, I was usually spending a lot more time than that on it. I think in 1.5 years I filled out roughly 130-140 resumes and cover letters? I was going through 5 temp agencies during that time and only had one offer come through that avenue, and that was to just move furniture for a week (I passed). Not trying to be bleak or a downer, but it's pretty brutal out there right now in the job market, especially with all the college kids just graduating this month.

Anyway, time off is good for sure if you can afford to do that, just don't underestimate how many people are out of work right now and looking for jobs too. Best of luck man, I'm sure you'll find something soon.
I'll probably just take a couple weeks for myself and then start looking for sure. Were you looking for specialized work that involved a degree or just a job you thought you could do and would pay decent? Or did you start with high hopes and then just started considering whatever was thrown at you?

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by beats me » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:36 am

Styles Bitchly wrote:
beats me wrote: I spend more time with you people :x ).
People? There are no people here. We are auto-responder automatons and apparitions.
:x

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by Da hand » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:46 am

Styles Bitchly wrote:
beats me wrote: I spend more time with you people :x ).
People? There are no people here. We are auto-responder automatons and apparitions.
Actually, this forum doesn't really exist. It's all in your head.

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by eddiex » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:38 am

yeah man its tough, i've been unemployed off and on for 3 years now. dude you just have to accept it.
and i know the logical thing to do would be as tarekith says, make looking for a job your job, but that *ish* is maddening.
i spent my first year unemployed applying for jobs, joining monster and jobdango, all that stuff, checking the newspaper.
i even tried some government programs aimed at making me more employable. all's i have to show for it is hundreds of turn downs, not to mention the no call backs. im overqualified and under-qualified, i have settled for way less money and crappier jobs.
ive done it, it doesn't work......it just makes you feel like a loser,it humbles you really quick. it pummels you very quick!

what i started to do after i realized it was going to be quite a while before i was solidly employed again, get some new hobbies or work on some self improvement stuff that you don't have time for when you are working....read.....i took up snowboarding and currently bicycling to lose a couple of extra lbs, not to mention music.
don't get me wrong, i still look for work every day, in fact i took a short, one or two week job here a couple of days ago(for half the money i usually get paid, and a guaranteed lay off in a couple of weeks) i just do the best i can with a situation that is beyond my control.
whatever you do, don't start internalizing it. the unemployment rate is still 9%- underemployment is probably around 20% those numbers aren't normal employment numbers at all.

my advice is this.....relax......just do you for a little while,get a new hobby. still look for work.....(sorry tarekith) but don't kill yourself to do it, because there is definitely not much out there, and you will go nuts after a while. don't be ashamed to ask for help from your family and friends either.
you will survive man.....take it from someone who has been there.....who is still there.....keep your head up bro.
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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by eddiex » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:47 am

start a FIGHT CLUB :D
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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by Tarekith » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:05 am

Beats - at first I was looking for a fairly specific career like I had been doing (biotech), then as that didn't work I broadened my scope. Like Eddie, I took some fairly crap jobs here and there to bring in some money and just do SOMETHNG for awhile, and it's definitely humbling. Though I also learned a lot and made some good friends in the process too.

I actually agree with Eddie, after a long time of trying with no luck, it gets brutally maddening. But I also think you need to really give it your all before you start to back off and start looking at other options. In my case it's what really got me to decide to start my own business, which has turned out to be exactly what I needed to do. Though I know that had I not explored and tried all my other options first, I would have been far less motivated to make this work (it's harder than any other job I've had, or endless job hunting combined).

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Re: pre-unemployment freak out

Post by ollyb303 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:22 am

Might it be worth thinking about investing some of your severance money in retraining? Particularly if you get a decent payout, this could really open up some doors for you.

When I was made redundant I spent about 3 grand of my payout on training which paved the way for me to get into a job I love, which also pays pretty well.

Even so, it took me a few months to find work and it can be a dark place. Try to stay positive. In all likelihood, you'll face a fair bit of rejection given the current economic climate (I wrote over 200 letters and got 1 interview - thankfully it went well), so you'll need to be proactive to stay on top of things. Eat healthily, exercise and try to enjoy the time off - you deserve it.

Another thing I'd do is, even if you intend to take, say, 3 months out, start looking for work pretty much straight away. It may take 3 months to find something!
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