what was your worst hardware purchase of all time?

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Post by conny » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:42 pm

smart1123 wrote:MC-303 or W-30 both by roland

or my behringer 802
I still got my W30 on a table.
Recently bought a Midi to USB cable to be able to hook it up with VST's.
For people who don't know, it may impress.
The 720 k disks are hard to find these days...
I've converted 113 disks to wav and stored for use in Live!
(But the sequencer was good at the time...)

I still regret buying an Alesis Quadraverb and an other box that could do "pitch shifting"...

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Post by braj » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:43 pm

Astral Fridge Magnet wrote:A Casio MIDI guitar (I can't remember the model number), which I still have. I feel guilty selling it to someone else knowing how much crap it is.
Absolutely bad tracking!!! I bought it because I didn't know any better and that seeing I am primarily a guitar player I thought it would be easier to input stuff into a sequencer.
To this day I still hate the salesperson who sold it to me.
Was it one of the plastic ones, or the strat-boddies ones (which I understand were pretty decent, especially the ones with built-in CZ synths).

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Post by braj » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:46 pm

Alesis Spitfire 15 practice amp. Sucks wooly balls.

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Post by Kas. » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:48 pm

braj wrote: This was when it was new and tech was changing fast. It wasn't terribly useful and it was hard to find disks at the time.

It was my first experience with sampling and I wasn't impressed.
Yeah, as a workhorse sampler it sucks, I see it more as a fairly random non-realtime audio effect. It can pack a punch on the right sounds. Of cource the manual should be taken with a grain of salt, everything it claims about sound quality is wrong, it should say something along the lines of "some sounds come out again in a way that vaguely reminds you of the original, some of those are quite fat"..... The bit about the phrase "good morning" (I think?) and looping is hilarious too.

Disks are still hard to find, I got lucky and got a few extra ones from a friend who´s broken sequencer used to use them. I tried loading those data disks, got some messed up noises and a crash or two.......

Still; few things have such a anti-social fat bottom end as early samplers. Did you ever hook up a Sk-1 to a PA?

I´m actually surprised the current "micro music" fashion hasn´t made it trendy yet, it´s quite good for that style, I suppose. I think Anthony Rother has one too.

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Post by Poster » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:16 am

sweetjesus wrote:
Poster wrote:yamaha rm1-x...
2 inch screens turned out not to be my thing..
had it for 5 days..
try using 2 line LCD!

Dude seriously though as overpriced as the RM1x was, it's the closest hardware competitor to Live (other than RS-7000 which has the same engine)
that's what I ment; 2 line lcd..
sucks bigtime..
sequencing was very good,
but going trough all those submenu's, well, not for me..
guess I'am used to comp screens too much..
that's why I love my Nord Mod.

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Post by Airbase » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:21 am

My Pioneer 1000 headphones. Jesus they suck. I instantly bough a new pair of V700 again.

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Post by melocoton » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:32 am

Akai S-2000. Bought it new and paid quite a bit of money for it (somewhere around $800 I think). Never really got into sampling with it and then a few years later it was basically made obsolete by computers. Now they sell on Ebay for $100.

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Post by Hypomixolydian » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:46 am

braj wrote:
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote:A Casio MIDI guitar (I can't remember the model number), which I still have. I feel guilty selling it to someone else knowing how much crap it is.
Absolutely bad tracking!!! I bought it because I didn't know any better and that seeing I am primarily a guitar player I thought it would be easier to input stuff into a sequencer.
To this day I still hate the salesperson who sold it to me.
Was it one of the plastic ones, or the strat-boddies ones (which I understand were pretty decent, especially the ones with built-in CZ synths).
It is a strat body one (in essence a Washburn guitar). Not the plastic ones. Mine doesn't have a built in synth. Though as a guitar its ok, though a bit heavy with all the electronics and what not. So every now and then I might play it as a guitar, but more fiddling about while sitting on the sofa while watching TV.

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Post by Komplex » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:00 am

Electrix Repeater. Loved the little thing for stuffing around but absolutely hated it for getting music done! Sold it for the same price I bought it for :)

If it wasn't for the shitty interface and buggyness and the fact that Live can do all that and more, I would have kept it ;)

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Post by AdamJay » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:04 am

behringer 4 channel compressor.
forget which model.
i wanted it for my TR-909, wanted to be able to send at least 4 sounds through it and it was pretty affordable.

but there was no attack or release control, the attack and release were auto and that made it useless for what i intended to use it for. :(

so i sold it and grabbed an FMR Audio RNC and just bussed the 909 channels to it and all was gravy. :)

i would eventually sell the TR-909 for an MPC2000 and thats when the real fun began. :D

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Post by Komplex » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:12 am

Do you still use your RNC Ads?

I'm thinking about grabbing one and have heard nothing but good things!

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Post by dave999z » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:26 am

The 22 inch Mitsubishi "Diamond Plus 100E" CRT monitor I'm looking at right now.


Well, I used it and enjoyed it since 1999 when I paid $1100 for it. But WTF am I going to do with it now? Still works/looks great. But it's huge. I probably can't even sell it on ebay for the cost to ship it.

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Post by rm » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:40 am

Kas. wrote:
braj wrote: I´m actually surprised the current "micro music" fashion hasn´t made it trendy yet, it´s quite good for that style, I suppose. I think Anthony Rother has one too.
Actually, Herbert has used the the 612 in the studio since his early recs and has used the 612 on the aux send channel of his mixer to sample on the fly in live on stage. Good thing, the micro crowd never caught on.

This is a great tool for experimentation, don't forget the sliders can be modified to have input jacks, so you could manipulate the start and end points with control voltages from a modular synth.

A pair of 612's on aux sends? Hmm. serial and / or parallel followed by a little space echo, what a treat.

Worst piece of hardware sequencer wise; Schaltwerk and Regelwerk both could have been better executed, great hardware and poor software

RM

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Post by AdamJay » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:45 am

Komplex wrote:Do you still use your RNC Ads?

I'm thinking about grabbing one and have heard nothing but good things!
nope, a few years ago when i bought a new laptop (P4 1.8ghz) i had sold a ton of gear to finance it, and the ton of software i bought..
the MPC went, along with the RNC, my 1st focusrite platinum compounder, a Behringer exciter, Behringer MX1804 mixer, 2 MAM Warp 9 analogue filters, and a rack and power conditioner.

it was a very wierd couple of months i gotta say.
sometimes i think about picking up an RNC again. i could use it outboard and back in, but i'll wait for Live 5 & PDC (plus expert sleeper's latency fixer) till i buy another piece of hardware.

The RNC is stellar. and it costs about 1/3 of what its truley worth. its great for drum busses but you can also use it on the mains. alot of guys use it combined with FMR's preamp for vocals. If there were only one hardware compressor left in the world, i'd hope it was the RNC.

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Post by MrSleep » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:35 am

Yamaha A3000! :evil:

MAN THAT THINK DROVE ME NUTS!!!
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