Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

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friend_kami
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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by friend_kami » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:31 pm

funken wrote:without having to create an extra audio track. I have about 6 extra tracks now.
+1

djcoma1200
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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by djcoma1200 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:36 pm

A workaround until then would be to group the track and then put the sidechain on the group track and remove it from the original track. Then you can freeze the original track that is inside the group without any issues.

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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by H20nly » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:17 am

djcoma1200 wrote:A workaround until then would be to group the track and then put the sidechain on the group track and remove it from the original track. Then you can freeze the original track that is inside the group without any issues.
:D


for some, workarounds are unacceptable. even if they work really well.

djcoma1200
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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by djcoma1200 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:01 pm

Like I said, it's a workaround you can use until they change the feature. Obviously not ideal and yes it does cause clutter. Being able to group groups is also something I desire. A workaround for that is turning the output of the group track to sends only and then you can send multiple groups to one return track. Once again though, it's less than ideal.

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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by Hermanus » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:06 pm

I would rather prefer an efficient freeze track before this.
I avoid it so much now, I rather prefer recording audio to another track.
then I can use compressor on the audio track with the recorded clip.

For some instruments it really doesn't work well with freeze and flatten to audio. [Session view is the worst case]
Often bad results, not a true audio copy

Just my point of view

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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by djcoma1200 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:03 pm

Hermanus wrote:I would rather prefer an efficient freeze track before this.
I avoid it so much now, I rather prefer recording audio to another track.
then I can use compressor on the audio track with the recorded clip.

For some instruments it really doesn't work well with freeze and flatten to audio. [Session view is the worst case]
Often bad results, not a true audio copy

Just my point of view
So the freeze/flatten can give a different result than when I send a midi track's output to a new audio track and record it? Can you please go into further detail on this for me? Thanks!

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Re: Freeze tracks with sidechained compressors on

Post by Hermanus » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:53 pm

Yes different results.

It's like flatten track was lacking some randomness.
While the unfrozen track plays, instrument plays right with long evolving moods.
Once flatten, some long LFO's were not so long anymore, giving a poorly evolving sound compared to the original.

I can excuse this for third party plugins but not for inner devices.
Recording to an audio track makes it faster and no headaches anymore.
Just my workaround
I have to say I avoid freeze track as most as possible :oops:

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