exper wrote:
Yes, I'll stand by the fact most of NI and Ableton users write electronic music for the most part and are not looking for that perfect Karn Evil 9 patch to play.
What vintage synths are in Komplete 7? Maybe I'm missing something. Absynth, no, Battery, no, Massive, no, FM8 not anymore, Reaktor, not really. Guitar Rig has vintage effects pedals, ok great, Kontakt has some vintage samples of pianos and bass guitars. Cool. Well S___load acheived!
Gigibytes of load in fact, they give you organs and pianos by the ton, an easier method to distribute it by, but the content is still there.
So, what software do you use that updates you yearly for free? Besides freeware.
Again NI are the most
expensive software on my computer, after 7+ years of upgrades. How that translates into your quote above I'm not sure?
Oh and, no, that DJ/Knob comment was not insulting anyone's intelligence either right? The simple fact is, if those products sold a decent amount, they'd still be here. End of story. NI and every other company are a business. If B3 or Pro53 or Kkore for that matter were runaway hits, I'm sure they'd be here. They weren't. Obviously.
Touchy, if I say not all of us want to tickle the ivory I'm sure somebody will take offense, when there's no offense to be had. I play guitar, keyboard, and mess with knobs and hitting Launchpad pads live, in fact the only thing I don't do is DJ. Not because I'm anti DJ, but because it's not for me, that's all. If you took that the wrong way that's all you.
NI stretch themselves thin, no doubt, but the simple FACT is other companies have a ton of legacy products they still update for every new OS, Spectrosonics, Ohm Force, U-He, Waves etc. NI aren't alone in discontinuing products they just happen to have a pretty huge list.
Off the top of my head: Kompakt, Intakt, Bandstand, Spektral Delay, B4, Pro53, Akoustic Piano, Elektric Piano, Kore, and Vokator.
It's larger than the list of current products: Massive, Reaktor, FM8, Absynth, Kontakt, Maschine, Battery, Traktor, Reflektor.
The point you're making seems to be that a company can abandon software that doesn't sell well. Fine, but that doesn't at all seem to be the case here, NI rolled most of their vintage keys into Komplete as Kontakt content. So they believe that people want that sort of sound. Kore is unique in that it shares too much development time with NI's runaway hit Maschine, so it doesn't at all have to be doing badly to have it be discontinued. You say most electronic musicians aren't keyboard players, and you really have no way to back that up. You yourself might not use or play a keyboard, you might only go see acts that don't use them onstage, but that doesn't at all mean that keyboards and keyboard plug ins for DAWs are obsolete, it's just not an A + B = C thing here. I go see rock bands only here, which is easy enough to do, and I could convince myself that most people want a hardware keyboard onstage, so why bother with computers?
I'm not anti NI, currently I have Komplete 6, Kore 1 hardware, Rig Kontrol 3. I've used their stuff since Komplete 2 and Absynth 1, but I'm not at all going to deride or argue with people who are upset at NI for discontinuing products, especially ones that have no replacement like Kore, Vokator, Spektral Delay. I seriously would get a plane ticket to Berlin, and stalk the CEO until I got a chance to get a good slap in if he ever abandons Absynth!
On that note if I can come up with the money I'll probably take them up on the crossgrade price for Maschine ($399 free ground shipping), which I don't think can be beat by the shops. It looks fun, but as I have a real in flesh drummer in my current project it's not necessary.
