A simple audio "send out" from anywhere in the effect chain.

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ColdChamber
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A simple audio "send out" from anywhere in the effect chain.

Post by ColdChamber » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:49 pm

I'm not sure this already exists as a builtin audio-device in Live 8, but is there a way to route a copy of a signal (like Y-splitting to the current track fader and another track) to another DropDown-menu-specified track in your project?

Something like... (sorry for the cheap ASCII illustration):

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//Track 1 effect devices:

           /             \/                  ::NEW::                     \/             \ 
           | Some random |  Audio Out to: Track 2 [v] (Dropdown list)    | More         |
           | effects     |  Output Level: [Volume Knob in decibels (db)] | Effects!     |
Audio In =>| here...     |                                               |              |=> Audio Out
           | (ex: EQ,    |  Audio In from: Track 2 [v] (Dropdown list)   | (ex: EQ,     |
           |  Compressor)|  Input Level: [Volume Knob in decibels (db)]  | Beat-Repeat, |
           \             /\                                              /\ Reverb,etc) /

So with this, you could redirect / interrupt an effect chain on a track for further processing in another track (or send track), outboard processing, or simply for places that calls for specific monitoring.

You'd be free, as usual, to add effects BEFORE and AFTER this Ableton Live device.

The dropdown for Audio-OUT would have the following available selections:
- Any Audio-Tracks (except self);
- Any Send-Tracks, and;
- the Master-Track;

The dropdown for Audio-IN would have the following available selections:
- Match output (the "auto redirect" if you will, it basically listens back to the signal from the selected Audio-Out track);
- Any Audio-Tracks (though, if only those affected by the selected Audio-Out track could be identified, that'd be great!);
- Any Send-Tracks, and;
- the Master-Track;

Regarding the Audio-In part:
Does Max For Live have the ability to "listen" at other tracks without having to setup special devices at those specific signal end-points? That'd be great and make this more user-friendly, in my opinion.

Has anyone stumble across a similar device, or think they could build one up relatively quickly? :D (I would if I knew how the heck to work Max4Live!)

henke
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Re: A simple audio "send out" from anywhere in the effect chain.

Post by henke » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:49 pm

nice drawing.

no, this is not yet possible for audio data. but its very high on the wishlist. the reason why it is not in yet is the fact that it needs to be done from the Live side of the world not from Max since Live needs to understand how the signals are routed even within Max devices or latency compensation and feedback loops cannot be handled correctly.

I personally cannot wait to see this implemented but i have been told to be patient...............

r.

toscanini
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Re: A simple audio "send out" from anywhere in the effect chain.

Post by toscanini » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:02 pm

Sorry if I am totally off here but isn't this somehow related?

http://cycling74.com/toolbox/unauthorizedbroadcast/

henke
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Re: A simple audio "send out" from anywhere in the effect chain.

Post by henke » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:53 pm

toscanini wrote:Sorry if I am totally off here but isn't this somehow related?

http://cycling74.com/toolbox/unauthorizedbroadcast/
yep. related. His externals look like an interesting workaround, but might really fuck Live's latency compensation, so i would only use it with careful testing or in situations where latency compensation is not critical.

Robert

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