the world has gone to shit

[merges]

I like house….

I agree! Are you working at home Habeeb?

OK... I think the Personal services spam-troll v. "I like music" fan argument is settled.

[abl385]

I agree! Are you working at home Habeeb?

I like house. IF we are good and the world will be good for us. Its our work to keep the world good.

[Khazul]

True, it's been a long time since dignity, honor, nobility and common sense weren't considered high standards.

Yes, there is a lot of love and positivity going on around the world. It'd be nice to see that in the media more often.

When I go out to the alley to smoke, I'll throw away trash lying around like newspapers, bottles and cans that the down'n'out leave on the ground. Considering that the trash bin is five feet away, it isn't a hassle.
The thing is, out of all of us that are out there in the course of a work day, only one person bothers to do it? Hoping for a chain reaction to start.

You don't understand the modern world. It's not oh look he's putting trash in the bin, we should too. It's oh look some looser picking up trash so we can just dump it. More likely they don't think anything at all, no one notices, no one gives a damn.

Sure good things have happened - rights for women's, blacks, and in theory all races etc. Laws to protect this group, laws to protect that group. Cool modern tech etc.

But somehow in the end, as someone said, honour, respect, dignity etc - that's all gone to shit and liberal modern laws that try to protect everyone end up just protecting the anti-social types who screw up the world for the rest of us - cos we ain't allowed to shoot them, beat them or whatever is reasonably justified. Not even allowed to put barbed wire on a damned fence in case it might hurt some damn chav who wants to get in your house at 5:30 in the morning - that's so fucked up.

Hell - you can blow up a load of kids these days and get put in a nice looking home with a room thats way nicer than many honest working people living in cities can rent, and equipped with a nice gym, even a studio etc instead of the old ways of being hung drawn and quartered, boiled alive, burnt alive or whatever as he should be.

[regretfullySaid]

Well, I've noticed I really only get pissy when I'm working downtown in the financial district so my current response to the whole thing is just to endure and "Be 'Excellent' To Each Other"

[johnmarley]

Anders Breivik... who lead many people to death in Norway...I agree with you that the world has gone to shit..

[andydes]

Sure good things have happened - rights for women's, blacks, and in theory all races etc. Laws to protect this group, laws to protect that group. Cool modern tech etc.

But somehow in the end, as someone said, honour, respect, dignity etc - that's all gone to shit and liberal modern laws that try to protect everyone end up just protecting the anti-social types who screw up the world for the rest of us - cos we ain't allowed to shoot them, beat them or whatever is reasonably justified. Not even allowed to put barbed wire on a damned fence in case it might hurt some damn chav who wants to get in your house at 5:30 in the morning - that's so fucked up.

Maybe it would help if we extended a bit of that respect to the working class "chavs". It's pretty fucked up the way the middle classes in this country snear at kids who grew up on estates. Admittedly I've joined in on laughing at some of the fashion statements in the past, but haven't we just substituted racial stereotypes for economical? Maybe the word "chav" will one day be seen as offensive as "paki".

[beats me]

But somehow in the end, as someone said, honour, respect, dignity etc - that's all gone to shit and liberal modern laws that try to protect everyone end up just protecting the anti-social types who screw up the world for the rest of us - cos we ain't allowed to shoot them, beat them or whatever is reasonably justified. Not even allowed to put barbed wire on a damned fence in case it might hurt some damn chav who wants to get in your house at 5:30 in the morning - that's so fucked up.

A good movie on this point is Felon. Basically there’s a home invasion and the home owner chases the intruder out of his house with a bat to protect his wife and kid, hits the guy once with the bat on his lawn, dude ends up dying and he’s tossed in prison for murder. The intruder was already leaving so he couldn’t claim self defense. Then of course while in prison he does things on the inside to survive that he never would do on the outside, also tied in with corrupt power tripping correctional officers.

[Slightlydelic]

yeah does seem like the world has gone to shit.

were just unfortunate to be living in a point in time where the west is in terminal decline and it becomes more and more obvious day by day.

[H20nly]

it's the same.

for as long as there has been complaining, there has been complaining about the world.

just because something is considered newsworthy or makes it into the media doesn't mean it wouldn't have happened otherwise. think about how many sexual freakers and ignorant and/or misled gun owners fuck up every single day that don't make the news.

someone already basically said that the only way to change the world is to change yourself. many of our problems/gripes etc. come from waiting for someone else to do it for us. the difference between that diaper wearing freak and someone idly standing by shaking their head saying "the world needs to be made better" is that he went after what he wants.

[LoopStationZebra]

Prior to the invention of the vacuum cleaner and Windex everything was so dirty. Yuck.

[andydes]

Prior to the invention of the vacuum cleaner and Windex everything was so dirty. Yuck.

Not to mention the state of things before Thomas Crapper's fine invention.

[evaodland]

shitty shit...not even the good kind of shit.

[Khazul]

Maybe it would help if we extended a bit of that respect to the working class "chavs". It's pretty fucked up the way the middle classes in this country snear at kids who grew up on estates. Admittedly I've joined in on laughing at some of the fashion statements in the past, but haven't we just substituted racial stereotypes for economical? Maybe the word "chav" will one day be seen as offensive as "paki".

A working class person is not a chav - at all - a chav is that little asshole with no respect for anything or anyone who needs shooting.

[simpleton]

It's the other way around. Shit has come to the world. And it's accumulating. At an alarming rate.

[andydes]

Maybe it would help if we extended a bit of that respect to the working class "chavs". It's pretty fucked up the way the middle classes in this country snear at kids who grew up on estates. Admittedly I've joined in on laughing at some of the fashion statements in the past, but haven't we just substituted racial stereotypes for economical? Maybe the word "chav" will one day be seen as offensive as "paki".

A working class person is not a chav - at all - a chav is that little asshole with no respect for anything or anyone who needs shooting.

I thought it was mainly the look.

Anyway, whatever I meant then, I now take back completely. Nail the little fuckers up.

Going to see if I can help with the Hackney clear up in a bit.

Des