T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by agent314 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:39 pm

Ever 'play' a synth's filter by driving the resonance hard and changing the frequency to amplify the overtones?

That's basically what they're doing. I can throatsing a little bit - not nearly as well as them, obviously, but enough to make "multiple" tones, and that's basically all the technique is: singing a pitch and changing the shape of your mouth to resonate at the different vowel formants, which gets you basically a pentatonic scale of overtones

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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:43 pm

ahhhh, interesting point, thanks!
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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by agent314 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:52 pm

Related, if you ever get a chance to see Huun Huur Tu on tour, definitely take it.

For how simple what they're doing is, they get absolutely amazing noises coming out of their mouths.

The super low singing, kargyraa, is unlike any noise I've ever heard a human make. I think it's all but impossible to convey in a recording the way it fills the room with sound.

As I think about it, that one might be a proper duophonic "synth" in that it's making the vocal flaps around the vocal chords vibrate, so you're actually getting two sources of sound production.

Back on topic, Robert, did you model that on a sample (i.e. someone saying 'TEST') and build it by trying to emulate the constituent parts, or did you synthesize it from scratch using knowledge of how speech works?

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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by henke » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:42 pm

from scratch. but i have to admit that it took me a while and that i spent quite some reading on speech synthesis beforehand.
i plan to build a nice formant filter in M4L one day which really works as a dynamic filter for speech synthesis - some ideas in my head here...

robert


// but indeed it is easier to get the timing and volume envelopes right if you model things after some already spoken words.

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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by agent314 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:49 pm

That's awesome.

I was trying to fake 'speech' by using a couple of formant filters and playing with the macro knobs, but it basically just sounded like someone tweaking EQ knobs.

I'm impressed, nice work

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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by ckluxen2 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:07 pm

I disagree with fx3 as I think there`s always OSC Phase Sync in operator as there are no phase cancellations happening, but you can`t turn it off.

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Re: T E S T ( speech synthesis example in Live )

Post by fx23 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:32 pm

if you read correctly i said Osc phase sync wasn't avaible in analog, of course it is in operator, and you CAN disable it...

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