omisphere... i dont get the big deal.

[redglass]

for me, Omnisphere was a big deal this summer!

It's not a tool for me to make the difference in sound, because so many composers use it already for film, ad or game.
But its ability to create something really quick, that is fulfilling the wishes of clients is something unique for omnisphere.

Sure, 360 EUR is a lot of money, but if I can earn this money back with a job, the return is done!

And Nexus and its soundpacks and Kronos are way too expensive for me, although the Kronos offers a lot stuff in a box.
But I'm missing the possibility to put audio-tracks from my DAW on its internal SSD to sync them with a live-band and my own playing.

As far as I know, audiotracks have to be loaded everytime in its RAM, this is not I was looking for,
as I need to organize different band-projects in a keyboard. I need SSD-memory for this, as it is quickly accessible.
As far as I know booting and starting a project takes almost 2 minutes, way too much in my opinion.

Bastian

[glitchrock-buddha]

dont you guys worry about some one else using the same sound as you did in a song?

I think this kind of thinking comes out of a misconception in electronic music production that to be original, you need to have a completely new sound, be it your own sample based sound or an original synth sound. But you know what, most synth sounds someone will come up with that are actually musical will also be similar to something someone else has done. How many tones can you really get out of a moog for example? But that's not the soungwriting part. The sound does not equal the song. Besides, do you think Les Paul players get worried that someone else has used a les paul in a song? Without effects that's one sound! For all those songs!

I will admit I did only try omnisphere for only a little over an hour which I know is not long in synth exploration time. After that long with other synths i pretty much have the interface figured out but not with omnisphere.
Maybe this is the type of synth that needs serious manual reading time devoted to it.

This I don't really understand. I think Omnisphere is actually very easy to understand. I think you're right that there is nothing revolutionary about it, it just gets the job done and sounds great, and is extremely versatile, thanks in part to an excellent library of samples. And we're not talking just weird burning pianos and things that are instantly recognizable, but raw waveforms of tons of old synths and raw sound that you just won't get from a synth oscillator in the digital world. Of course having trilian really makes this even more true. But as far as the interface and figuring it out, if you understand other synths, there is really nothing new in Omni to figure out. It covers most of the sound shaping features you'd want in a synth and applies them in an easy to use way. I never had to read a manual or anything. But thanks largely to all the different filters and the 2 filters per layer, the soundsources can be changed quite a bit.

I would say though that if it doesn't really hit you after using it for an hour, then maybe it's just not your thing. There isn't something wrong with you if you're not into and you're not necessarily "missing something". Different things appeal to different folks is all.

[jestermgee]

Here are some tracks created with Omnisphere. These tracks were created as "test drive" tracks to get a feel for the quality and sound but have been written for use in a few film projects (these are not ambient tracks). All tracks were written in the same week along with a few other muck around tracks not included.

Listen to them while you can because I don't post works in progress often and these are to be used soon when completed.

These demonstrate the "Rompler" side of things if you will. Using some of the presets of sampled instruments but with some modifications and obviously extensive sequencing:

>>PLAY HERE<<
**Just click a track and use the popup player

OMNISPHEREDEMO-01
This is in the final stages of mixing. The "Slide Guitar" instrument needs a little refinement. The piano and Drum track (and sound effect of a cash draw) are the only parts NOT from Omnisphere. All other elements are Omni.

OMNISPHEREDEMO-02
This was created in the same sitting but using some different instruments. I like the sounds of the choirs in Omnisphere so wanted to give them a bit of a test. Again, the drums and piano are not from Omni. All else is (except the small record scratching towards the end). This is a completed track awaiting full detailing.

OMNISPHEREDEMO-03
This is a heavier industrial track and the drum track is the only element not from Omni. This was the very first test sequence with Omni I created. This is just a quick 2 hour mix.

Any feedback welcome but just use this as a quick taste of what can be achieved very easily. My first 3 weeks using this synth has finished up with 6 tracks completed. These aren't the gold ones... I can't post those unfortunately and these will be ripped down soon once they are reserved.

[Tarekith]

Who needs samples

http://vimeo.com/9055868

Also keep in mind when you buy Omnisphere, you get access to a few hours of free tutorial videos on the Spectrasonics site covering how to use the synth in detail. I don't think I've ever even needed to crack the manual after watching those.

[glitchrock-buddha]

Who needs samples

Well now, I need the Trilian samples! Seriously, there is nothing in the world of software that feels as much like using a real vintage analog synth. There is no soft synth on the market who's oscillators can pack that much punch.

Seriously, have you bought Trilian yet?!

[glitchrock-buddha]

And speaking of Trilian within Omnisphere, here's an excellent series of demos for that combo:
http://vimeo.com/9388363

[Rationalizer]

And speaking of Trilian within Omnisphere, here's an excellent series of demos for that combo:
http://vimeo.com/9388363

I have both, but haven't managed to play them like that

[Tone Deft]

Here are some tracks created with Omnisphere.

bravo sir. I quite enjoyed those.

/thread

[agent314]

Screw all you buttholes, now I want Omnisphere.

[nathannn]

Who needs samples

http://vimeo.com/9055868

Also keep in mind when you buy Omnisphere, you get access to a few hours of free tutorial videos on the Spectrasonics site covering how to use the synth in detail. I don't think I've ever even needed to crack the manual after watching those.

some one needs to tie this guys hands down when he talks. i would hate to be standing next to him during a conversation.

[Sounds of Samsara]

I love Omni, it replaced both my Virus TI2 and Zebra2 for me.

Tarekith, would you be willing to expand on this a little? I am on the verge of selling my TI because of the flaky integration. I know the Virus is covered with knobs, but I can't get over the menu diving and actually prefer using the software to program sounds. The only thing that has held me back from selling, after owning the TI since '06, is the Virus sound which I adore.

I own several Uhe products already and have had the demo of Zebra installed for several months, but I'm still not totally convinced that it will serve as the replacement I am looking for. While I can get patches pretty close to the Virus(closer than other software I've demoed) and Zebra sounds fantastic it's just with Ace, Tyrell, Zebra CM, Zebralette, and Uhbik I'm not sure another Uhe plugin is what I need to add to my sonic palette.

Which brings me to Omni. It seems like an incredibly powerful synth for sound design and people rave about the way it sounds. However, with no demo I am reluctant to shell out nearly $500. Do you find that it works well for everyday synth duties, or do you mostly use it for atmosphere/pad type stuff? I have read plenty of blogs with people claiming that it works great as a VA, but I'm interested in hearing your opinion as a previous owner of a TI and Zebra.

Thanks!

[Tarekith]

Yeah, it does all manner of VA style of sounds, either with the built in synth, or via the sampled analog waveforms that come with it. I actually prefer the menus and knobs of the TI myself, but I'm an old school hardware guy. I do like the new OmniTR app for the iPad though, that goes a long way towards making Omni feel a little more like hardware.


In terms of sound quality and range of sounds, Omni can do everything the TI can do and quite a lot more. It gets rap as a pad machine because they included all the atmosphere sounds with it, but that's only a small part of what it an do,

[Sounds of Samsara]

Thanks for the reply Tarekith!

One more question for Omni users. I've noticed that there's a dual layer system where sources are run in parallel. How does this play out with the filters? I've noticed from screenshots that there is a link button for the A and B layers. Does this also link the filter functions?

[jamief]

i have omni since it came out. Its my go to synth along with Alchemy.
but Omnis is vast what you see on the presets is a small section of the sounds available you need to go into the back end and spend time deloping your own sounds. there is nothing else out there on the market like or so vast. I own nearly every VSt going ( paid for not cracks) and Omni is the one i repeatedly go to