Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by Tarekith » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:20 pm

I love mine, awesome controller.

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by travismc1 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:55 pm

I use mine for production rather than performance, I'm fully satisfied with mine. I use it in Ableton 8 and in Sonar X1. I like it in both instances.
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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by maze23a » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:00 pm

I think the APC 40 is still one of the best Midi controllers ever made.
Of course only if you use with Ableton.
In my set up it's the only unchangeable component.
A Mdi keyboard? I can use tjis or maybe that one.
But the flexibility and veratile usage of the APC is still awesome.
I think about changing some things sometimes in my setup but the APC40!?
Never considered!

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by mrshow01 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:01 pm

Hermanus, what back pack is it?

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by JuanSOLO » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:05 pm

I've had an APC40 since day 1. Chances are you read some of my bitching, but this does not mean it's not a great controller. Nowadays, you have stuff like Hanz Pertov's script, Native Kontrol, and Max for Live with a few patches out there that really bring the APC40 to life.

If it's just you and your laptop, you will love adding an APC40.

Comparing it to Maschine is not really fair. They are 2 different animals, intergrated with 2 different softwares.

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by skatr2 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:53 pm

Juan you just mad me think...could you imagine an apc40 with an actual software component backup like maschine has and the things you could do with it?! 8O

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by JuanSOLO » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:07 pm

Look, all the APC40 ever needed was an in depth, user friendly editor that built out midi remote scripts. Where you could make layouts of Step Sequencers, Note modes, Midi or CC combinations, and for crying out loud the ability to choose wether or not a button was momentary or a toggle. Seriously Akai/Ableton??? :roll:

Dont get me wrong I love my APC40 and M4L and learning remote scripting, etc etc etc. But sometimes I just wanna say fcuk all that open up a simple editor and change Track ones mute button to be a send C and D momentary switch, instead of building a M4L device and forever de-bugging Live because of it.

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by JuanSOLO » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:16 pm

OH forgot to mention, why an 8x5 matrix when they were obviously working with Novation on the Launchpad simultaneously? That just seems ridiculous to me.

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:28 pm

probably because it's big enough as it is. what was the OP said about all the bitching? I doubt Ableton was going to Akai to tell them what Novation was doing and vice versa. as for the size, check peoples' studio pics to see how it fits.


APC40 - studio controller.

Maschine - performance machine.

my APC40 lets me use Live without ever touching the mouse. one cool feature I like is that you can hold down a Track Selection button to collapse and unfold groups. shuttle control is handy as are the metronome etc buttons.
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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by JuanSOLO » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:42 pm

old pic, but yeah it fits great. I could still use 3 rows of matrix though.

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:01 pm

oooh seksy!
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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by i3igTripplets » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:42 pm

JuanSOLO wrote:old pic, but yeah it fits great. I could still use 3 rows of matrix though.

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by Observer-A » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:18 pm

Don't believe the negative hype. I got one about a month ago after asking some people here and I couldn't be happier.
The best part is that through custom scripts and mappings I am finding unique ways to use it that suit me perfectly.

I have played with the launchpad and while nice, it simply does not compare.

The main thing with an APC40 is that you need to work with it to make it your own. After that you will barely touch the computer.
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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by bartend7 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:23 pm

i saw one for 200 at guitar center over laborday.. the 40 not the 20. does this mean akai has something newer in the works? an apc40 number2 or something?

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Re: Is all of the APC 40 hate justified or just gear-head rants?

Post by Observer-A » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:30 pm

bartend7 wrote:i saw one for 200 at guitar center over laborday.. the 40 not the 20. does this mean akai has something newer in the works? an apc40 number2 or something?
I was wondering the same thing but the consensus seems to be that there is nothing in the immediate future.

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