Is Live CPU-friendly?

[socialjusticeman]

And I "mentioned about it" because you confused the poor guy by implying that this was somehow a technology associated with Apple Logic by using the word logic in conjunction with the notion that warping isn't a Live technology.

I'm sure they bought it off of someone - even internet explorer used to be called Mosaic and was written by the NCSA - but who cares? They OWN it. IT'S THEIRS!!!!!

Anyway, my original point stands. Use warping when necessary and turn it off when not.

Ian

[pencilrocket]

Hair-splitting? Keep going.

[H20nly]

there's a setting in Preferences to "turn off warping on long samples" by selecting that setting you can save some CPU and still use warping on clips (when needed).

[socialjusticeman]

Pencilrocket, I believe your english skills may be the main problem here.

No disrespect intended but I don't think you realise how confusing your answer was.

Genuinely, my point was simply to elucidate the original poster. Disagreeing with you was simply a part of the process.

Ian

[dazzer]

Why would somebody buy Live and then turn warp off? Makes no sense.

Live is nothing to do with warp. It's other company's technology. Your logic make no sense,

Live handles audio via it's warp functionality, enabling simple pitch shifting and/or time stretching.
It's one of Live's selling points.
It doesn't matter whose technology it is.
To buy Live and then disable warp 'cos it's too CPU intensive makes no sense - it would be more logical to use other less CPU-intensive software.
My logic is fine.

[Felonius]

Here is part of a post by a Live fan on a Gearslutz thread:

there are also a small number of people who claim Live's sound engine is compromised in some way, but this is usually because they leave warping - time stretching - enabled on all tracks even though they don't need to. this is Live's default setting, i have it disabled and just use it when needed.

it's obvious that if every track in your song is time stretched there's going to be some degradation but it's surprising how many people this catches out!

[Forge.]

Or more specifically: should it run decently on an i3, 4 GB ram, if one is not a plug-in piggy?

Thank you.

quite surreal that we're at a point where people are asking if an i3 is enough! These are supercomputers compared to what I first used Live 1 & 2 on.

You will be fine. It's good practice to conserve power anyway if you don't really need it.

Live is a bit more CPU intensive compared to other DAWS purely because it's optimised from the ground up for real-time usage, meaning you can do things with audio still running that others wouldn't let you. So if you're comparing to another DAW then you might find your track count goes down.

[Gaetano CAPUANO]

CPU friendly? HA LOLZ

[pencilrocket]

Why would somebody buy Live and then turn warp off? Makes no sense.

Live is nothing to do with warp. It's other company's technology. Your logic make no sense,

Live handles audio via it's warp functionality, enabling simple pitch shifting and/or time stretching.
It's one of Live's selling points.
It doesn't matter whose technology it is.
To buy Live and then disable warp 'cos it's too CPU intensive makes no sense - it would be more logical to use other less CPU-intensive software.
My logic is fine.

Warp is never main feature of ableton because it's other company's technologie. Even if ableton doesn't have that technologie Live is Live. No matter how CPU intensively ablton impimented this technologie that't not our fault. We have choice of not using them and we shouldn't use it if it isn't needed. Because it's not CPU friendly. Easy. Your myopic thinking that people who don't want to use warp doesn't use Live, is rather illogical. Users decide how to use it. We have choice. Not you.

You will be fine. It's good practice to conserve power anyway if you don't really need it.

Live is a bit more CPU intensive compared to other DAWS purely because it's optimised from the ground up for real-time usage, meaning you can do things with audio still running that others wouldn't let you. So if you're comparing to another DAW then you might find your track count goes down.

Indeed. It is often relying to realtime process side. That causes CPU usage in some aspects.

[dazzer]

Key features:
Multitrack recording up to 32-bit/192 kHz
Nondestructive editing with unlimited undo
Powerful and creative MIDI sequencing of software and hardware instruments
Advanced warping and real-time time-stretching
Supports AIFF, WAV, MP3, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC files
A comprehensive selection of built-in audio and MIDI effects
Built-in instruments: Simpler for sample-based synthesis, Impulse for sampled drums
Instrument, Drum and Effect Racks
New groove engine; apply and extract grooves in real time
etc. etc.

Number 4 on their list, higher on most users' lists. Use Live how you wish. Don't do drugs.

[pencilrocket]

Key features:
Multitrack recording up to 32-bit/192 kHz
Nondestructive editing with unlimited undo
Powerful and creative MIDI sequencing of software and hardware instruments
Advanced warping and real-time time-stretching
Supports AIFF, WAV, MP3, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC files
A comprehensive selection of built-in audio and MIDI effects
Built-in instruments: Simpler for sample-based synthesis, Impulse for sampled drums
Instrument, Drum and Effect Racks
New groove engine; apply and extract grooves in real time
etc. etc.

Number 4 on their list, higher on most users' lists. Use Live how you wish. Don't do drugs.

Key feature doesn't always mean their technologie. That's a good example. Nice post.

[lethal_pizzle]

@pencilrocket - nonsense nonsense nonsense! http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... rring.html
@OP - you can free up CPU by freezing tracks, so you can use Live with CPUs a lot worse than yours!

[socialjusticeman]

Quite right, lethalpiz.

[pencilrocket]

@pencilrocket - nonsense nonsense nonsense! http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... rring.html
@OP - you can free up CPU by freezing tracks, so you can use Live with CPUs a lot worse than yours!

only 2 post noob. This is how I was told by "wise" man.

[Piplodocus]

Live isn't the most light on processor, but it's optimised for doing live stuff so you're more likely to be able to switch/change stuff whilst playing without suffering as many pops and clicks etc.

This CPU usage is increased a lot if you warp tracks. Warping tracks can be very useful if you're doing DJ/live electronica when you need to change the tempo of stuff in real time or make stuff match other parts. Personally I don't use it much as I mostly use Live as a handy songwriting and live performance tool that I don't really need to change the speed of samples. I use it more for session view and live triggering, or arrangement view to make whole songs.

You can freeze tracks to save CPU power.

So, basically, it's not "CPU friendly" compared with other DAWS, but there's a few reasons why. Some of which can be reduced or minimised. Try the demo as suggested...