URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:25 pm

Hi everybody!

I don't like to use that "urgent" word in topics, so I hope you won't mind but I got a really annoying problem that I need to get solved asap...

I am doing a hybrid between a DJ set and a Live Act, using the 2 first tracks of my ableton set for the 2 decks (and the other tracks for the live stuff) ...

I decided to map the EQs of these 2 decks to the AKAI APC 40 "Pan" feature (which I am not gonna use for anything else) : I got the buttons 1 , 2 and 3 for the EQ of the Deck A (Low, Med, Hi) and buttons 5 6 and 7 for the EQ of the Deck B (Low, Med, Hi) ...

My problem is that when I switch from the "Pan" feature to the "Sends" feature (as example) then come back to the "Pan" feature to work on the EQs, the APC 40 buttons are "reset" ... When I switch from Send to Pan, all the APC 40 buttons are back to "0" which mean they simply cut the frequencies instead of staying at the frequencies I put them before... I want them to keep their positions of course...

Once you bounce over to a send then return to pan the position of the EQ is no longer recalled so it automatically cuts the sound because the far left position on the knob is the default position. Using the device control it will recognize the position of the live device on the midi surface, but like I said, you can't manipulate both channels at the same time.

Sorry for my bad english, I hope you guys will understand what I mean...

Thank you so much for your help!

S4racen
Posts: 5987
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:08 pm
Location: Dunstable
Contact:

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by S4racen » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:19 pm

Its a fault of some apc40s....

It's why I built my max4live device originally...

Cheers
D

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:26 pm

only some? that means I was unlucky with the APC40 i bought ? =(

S4racen
Posts: 5987
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:08 pm
Location: Dunstable
Contact:

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by S4racen » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:33 pm

Yeah it's hard to say which ones are affected, mine was an early one and definitely did but other people havent reported the same problem....

Cheers
D

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:36 pm

they should provide a new firmware or something like that :( I am totally fucked up :cry:

S4racen
Posts: 5987
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:08 pm
Location: Dunstable
Contact:

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by S4racen » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:57 pm

They havent updated a thing since release... i dont know if hanz petrovs remote scripts solve it....

Akai's point of view is that the unit simply sends midi, anything else is Abletons responsibility...

The controller is awesome out of the box but i'd have expected an update by now...

CHeers
D

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:59 pm

yeah... and this bug really pisses me off... the only solution I have found is to simply stop using the send effects... which is really bad :(

willdahbe
Posts: 499
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:35 am

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by willdahbe » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:35 am

I also have this problem when setting up my own custom midi mapping on the "track controls". Usually if I set it up my mapping, save the set and quit, and restart the same set, it fixes this problem for me.

Also I have the takeover mode set to none.

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:17 pm

doesn't seem to work here :(

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:55 am

I am still looking for a way to fix this... little bump :D

S4racen
Posts: 5987
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:08 pm
Location: Dunstable
Contact:

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by S4racen » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:00 pm

Have you tried Hanz Petrovs remote scripts?


Apart from that i dont think there is one, you may have to look into alternatives like Bomes or Max4Live, alternatively return the unit and test a new one?

Lobby Akai!!



Cheers
D

JuanSOLO
Posts: 3236
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:21 am
Location: Shreveport LA, sometimes Dallas/Ft Worth TX

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by JuanSOLO » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:50 pm

Yeah Hanz script will help, and it will give your Track Control a real sweet layout, especially if your DJing with it. However, I still get a lil weirdness here and there with my Track Control Knobs and Hanz's script. Not sure if it's the script or the APC40.

ALSO, dont quote me on this, but since 8.2.6 Hanz's script seems to have lost some control.

toxictobi
Posts: 53
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:06 am
Location: Berlin

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by toxictobi » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:18 pm

Just read your thread TechnoLover and tryed it resulting in the same problem, though I´ve never really done any deejaying with Live & the APC yet..
anyway, by checking the midi-preferences I realized that the Remote-button of the APC-Output was turned off, after switching it on it seems to work properly now...
maybe I´m just lucky to have a "good unit" (it´s my 2nd APC40, the first one had a very loud whining noise issue...)

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:11 am

gotta check it when I am back out but I am pretty sure I already did...

TechnoLover
Posts: 242
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Post by TechnoLover » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:02 am

looks like it's hopeless :(

Post Reply