Mixing and beat matching without time warping?

[guyinyoureye]

Hey Guys, Im sure this has been asked before but I can not figure it out. All I want to do is mix quantized tracks together without time warping them. These are all same genre of electronic music and the tempos only vary a few percent and also I am not doing this live, just want to record but I cant seem to have them match up by changing tempos without time warping....? Hopefully something I a missing.

[pencilrocket]

Tempo mapping? I think there are no in Live. Cubase does both.
If you just want to reduce CPU intensiveness you have to export the warped song.

[yur2die4]

Mixing tracks of different tempo (even to the slightest degree) without augmenting the tempo of one of the tracks in some way or another is impossible. Not even a dj can do that. (the only exception being, if you literally cut audio out every couple seconds)

You either need to use something like Sampler, pitchbend automation, and a reeeally long Midi note, or to warp in RePitch mode, which is really not that bad. Is there a reason why you are afraid to warp?

[guyinyoureye]

I am trying to avoid the glitchy sound quality produced by time warping. Can Abelton allow me to change song tempos without warp markers glitching up the mix? Currently I am only time warping the sections of the song that actually mixed together so the rest will sound better. All I am trying to do is change the tempo of a basic 4/4 dance track from 134bmp to 129 bpm without time warping it to hell. Is there something I am missing? I feel I have seen videos where people are dropping tracks all set to the same tempo without this glitch time warping sound.

[joshrrr]

I have to say, i also am quite surprised by they 'wobbling' noise that warping seems to introduce sometimes, maybe it's because i'm so accustomed to the unedited tracks that I notice it so much. But I've noticed that in (for example) CD decks from denon, pioneer, and even my old gemini mpx40s don't cause the same amount of distortion as ableton- even when using tempo changes with the pitch locked. I also was surprised that warping increases the volume of a song so much that your levels can start to peak! annoying...

[guyinyoureye]

Thank you! I felt like I was going crazy there for a while. I feel like there is no need for time warping on EDM tracks so just let my pitch change with the tempo. Can I accomplish this with abelton, set tempos allowing pitch change?

[yur2die4]

Have you read the section in the manual on the different kinds of warp setting you can use? One acts more like vinyl where, it changes nothing but the pitch, causing the track to drag longer or shorter. For that setting, it is best to use as few markers as possible.

My favorite is Beats. I've been using it a longg time. I know what you mean by the garbling. When I use beats, I do Not use the 'transients' setting. That basically shifts every single hit in the song around. I try to see what kind of bassline the material has, and usually stick with 8th notes on tracks that aren't busy. 16ths on busier, if it is total madness, and has no swing, I can get away with 32 (very tight in the right scenario)

A lot of users seem to Love Complex Pro. I'd play with warping. If that won't work for you, I guess there are Serato or Traktor??