Audio to Midi?

[Donny]

is it possible to convert audio to midi in Live 8 without the use of a plugin?

or is it possible to save an audio file as a midi file?

[agent314]

Not without using an external plugin (or possibly Max for Live)

[H20nly]

Isn't that what "Slice to MIDI does" in Live?

[nuxnamon]

Isn't that what "Slice to MIDI does" in Live?

i'm thinking he means if he has a audio clip playing a melody or some chord, he wants Ableton to spit out the midi of the meldoy or chord.. ala melodyne.. if that's the case, I don't know of anyway within Live outside using external plugs or max devices..

[Donny]

whats max? and how could I accomplish this using max if I were to get it?

[ramangill]

Isn't that what "Slice to MIDI does" in Live?

i'm thinking he means if he has a audio clip playing a melody or some chord, he wants Ableton to spit out the midi of the meldoy or chord.. ala melodyne.. if that's the case, I don't know of anyway within Live outside using external plugs or max devices..

Curious what external plugins can do this? You're telling me that a 4 bar loop or melody or chord that you like can be transformed into a midi file or midi notes that you can then manipulate or apply your own sounds to?

I would love to know of a tool that can do that.

[agent314]

The Mouth has some pitch-tracking MIDI export features, as does Melodyne and in hardware, Sonuus's i2m/b2m/g2m interfaces

[nuxnamon]

Isn't that what "Slice to MIDI does" in Live?

i'm thinking he means if he has a audio clip playing a melody or some chord, he wants Ableton to spit out the midi of the meldoy or chord.. ala melodyne.. if that's the case, I don't know of anyway within Live outside using external plugs or max devices..

Curious what external plugins can do this? You're telling me that a 4 bar loop or melody or chord that you like can be transformed into a midi file or midi notes that you can then manipulate or apply your own sounds to?

I would love to know of a tool that can do that.

I use melodyne.. and other useful stuff i've done with melodyne

1. vocal correction.. Not as fast as autotune but certainly better results with vocal correction
2. find a nice arp pattern playing.. capture the audio and now you have the midi of the arp and apply it to other synths..
3. change chords/melodies of sampled material.. say you have synth stab you sampled but it's in a chord that's clashing with your arrangment.. IF you have a clean recording of the synth stab (solo'd), melodyne will split the chord into it's individual notes and you can change them as you please, like from a minor to major key.. little stuff like that, it's fine.. but changing the chord to something totally different can start to produce artifcats and sound artificial..
4. sample mangler..

[trevox]

whats max? and how could I accomplish this using max if I were to get it?

Max for live is a version of a program called max/msp that is integrated into Live. It's a visual programming application to route and manipulate signals (numbers, lists and audio). There is an object called "bonk~" that will send a signal out when a threshold you specify is reached which would be your note on. There's another object called "fiddle~" which detect the frequency of a signal which will give you your note value. Between the two, you can trigger midi notes from any audio source that has a distinct frequency and no attack. Advantage to this is you can play it live.

Otherwise, you can use slice to midi as suggested. Live should detect the transients for you, though you may have adjust some manually. You can also send the sliced audio to a sampler. There's load of videos out there showing how this is done.