Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

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Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by supergirl36 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:05 am

Hey guys, i saw Com Truise, a dj from New-york, in concert. He uses an APC 40 and a Mopho to trigger things(?). During the whole concert, the screen of his Mac was bent down, and he played like 12 songs without even looking at his computer. Anyone know how he did that ? Thanks.

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by bosonHavoc » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:26 am

i don't know how he does it but i know how it can done...
have your controllers all mapped in away so you do not need to touch your computer..
with the something like the apc40 that offers visual feedback of the clips
and knobs you do not need to see your screen.. just scroll through your set with the apc40..
also practice practice...
and consistency

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by pepezabala » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:21 am

I play my set with a nanokontrol and a launchpad and don't have to look at the screen during the whole set.

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by Riley333 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:49 am

HP DV7 4295us, i7 2630QM, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 1TB Internal, Windows 7 64bit Ultimate,RME Firface UC,Ableton Live, Sonar X1, Maschine.

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by citizenchris099 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:43 pm

with modern controller solutions such as the APC40, launchpad or the numerous tablet apps...this is completely do-able. Its all about preparation really.

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by S4racen » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:02 pm

Riley333 wrote:Isotonik 8 with APC40 is one way.
http://darrencowley.blogspot.com/p/isot ... plate.html
Thanks Riley ;-)

www.isotonikstudios.com new website just launched!!

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by Riley333 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:04 pm

S4racen wrote:
Riley333 wrote:Isotonik 8 with APC40 is one way.
http://darrencowley.blogspot.com/p/isot ... plate.html
Thanks Riley ;-)

http://www.isotonikstudios.com new website just launched!!

My pleasure, you must have put thousands of hours into Isotonik, it's so well thought out.

http://www.isotonikstudios.com is a better link, the one I posted earlier does'nt have the latest.

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Post by S4racen » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:40 pm

thousands of hours and one marriage ;-(

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by SnoopWess » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:48 pm

that just means he pre-arranges his sets before his shows. which is weak. don't do that.

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Post by docprosper » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:23 pm

SnoopWess wrote:that just means he pre-arranges his sets before his shows. which is weak. don't do that.
yeah everybody knows there's a rule that makes that totally uncool. Almost as lame as popping up on forums spouting off about artistic rules. I mean, bands never make setlists for there concerts. :roll:

Anyway, you can DJ w/out your screen AND not pre-arrange your set, you just need to control your cues via midi. I've done it.
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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by Muzik 4 Machines » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:49 pm

i can but i keep the monitor just to be SURE what song i'm at, especially in my 200+song live PA set that use 8 external instruments+audio tracks and 4 external send fx, totalizing 1000 scenes(ableton's limit) so th escreen is usefull, i never ever touch the computer tho, screen is ust a reference of where i'm at like the 2 line lcd on my electribe was before that)

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by supergirl36 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:18 pm

S4racen wrote:
Riley333 wrote:Isotonik 8 with APC40 is one way.
http://darrencowley.blogspot.com/p/isot ... plate.html
Thanks Riley ;-)

http://www.isotonikstudios.com new website just launched!!
Sorry if i'm insisting. I just watched the Isotonik 8 vid, and i'm not convinced though i don't really know the product. Let me make things clear : a Live Set in Live is a song, basically. Those Isotonik able you to switch from one Live song to another. Thanks for your patience, guys.

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Post by S4racen » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:27 pm

supergirl36 wrote:[. Let me make things clear : a Live Set in Live is a song, basically.
Eh? Live is a collection of audio and lidi clips with the ability to play live into a set of midi instruments, it's anything you want it to be....

if you think along the lines of a Live Set is being one song this could really challenge your performances?

Isotonik is designed to offer further configurability to the APC40 along with using it to give visual references such as indicating when a clip is playing or looping within a track....

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by Forge. » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:51 pm

not to state the obvious, but you can close the lid and still have it "awake"

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Re: Whole dj set on APC40 without computer ?

Post by JuanSOLO » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:28 pm

I love Com Truise, saw the 1st Dallas show of the recent tour, LOVED IT. Laptop was on stage open.

However in regards to the OP question, I would guess Com Truise's Live set is really simple. I'm gonna go even further and say I think the set is built around scenes and the APC40. So basically he pushes 1 scene button to start a song, and if he wants he adjusts some volume levels or adds some FX. I noticed he would turn 2 knobs at once to get this really warped sound as kind of a breakdown. So basically I think it's simple for him to close the Laptop lid and just look at the way his clip matrix looks to tell where the next song is.

THAT being said, my friend saw the second show in Dallas when he began opening for Neon Indian, (a group who used to have an APC40 and a Laptop on stage and now is adamantly pro analogue.)
My friend said Com Truise had his laptop hidden at the following performances. My response was "thats a shame."

Seems to me there's this thing going on where Laptop acts are either wanting to appear analogue, or by NOT exposing the laptops makes them feel better or more of a showman. I find this to be a strange phenomenon. It strikes me as being untrue to the art of Laptop music, as well as untrue to the art of analogue tech. Granted I want to move away from the "checking my email" look of Laptop music by using tools like an APC40 and not having to click the mouse so much during a perfomance, but I dont want to pose as if I am doing something I am not, in that process. I see no point.

On that note, I kinda have to agree with the camp that says if your laptop is out of sight, the Live set your using must be really simple to operate, lots of pre-planning and dumbing stuff down so generically labeled knobs and buttons make since. If your using an Analogue keyboard/drum machine you look at the labels on the surface or LCD screens to make since of changing parameters. So whats the resistance to looking at a Laptop screen to do the same thing? The resistance to me seems all about image, image backed by perceptions of what is, or is not cool during performance.

All and all, I say if you wanna look analogue, OWN IT, if you wanna use a Laptop, OWN IT, if you wanna do both OWN IT. Not sure why people are going on in this manner that is deceptive.

Nevertheless, I love that Com Truise. GREAT FUCKING MUSIC.

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