New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by 3dot... » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:24 pm

and don't forget ACE-XL..
(preferably with audio inputs :wink: )
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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by deva » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:27 pm

scutheotaku wrote:
rosti wrote:I think i have to buy a new computer for this :o
Looks awesome!
Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't really eat up loads of CPU for me...
put it in top quality mode (divine) and try modulating the cutoff with high resonance and some noise... you will see some cpu use!

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by deva » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:34 pm

UncleAge wrote:
Nick Shepherd wrote:another gem from Urs - great job as allways...
i have to agree. i fnd time lines a bit hard to keep up with because he starts so many projects that he hasn't finished. but the zebra-ace-diva lineup is pretty nice really. outside of granular and deep additive synthesis he has covered a lot ground. who knows, we might see bazille and some version of that uhbik-x next year as well.
Hey what's the hurry with Bazille, it is awesome as is and is currently free!!!

I read Uhbik-X is shelved (permanently?) due to unexpected technical problems with the concept.

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:52 pm

scutheotaku wrote:
rosti wrote:I think i have to buy a new computer for this :o
Looks awesome!
Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't really eat up loads of CPU for me...
That's what I thought at first, but soon realized that no, as soon as you try to use it as a polysynth, the cpu is mental. playing chords with two hands will glitch out Live or Studio One on my 2.2 Ghz i7 macbook pro. I don't even use the best settings. I find "fast" to be good enough, which the 2nd lowest (Draft>Fast>Great>Devine).
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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by nebulae » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:00 pm

Suggestion for CPU: Resample your patches and create Simple/Sampler instruments. Might be a bit of work, but could do the trick. Alternatively, use the sampler instrument creator found in samplers like DirectWave that sample your synths and create low-cpu sample machines. http://www.image-line.com/documents/directwave.html

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by nebulae » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:17 pm

You can also use Highlife to sample-freeze the Diva:
http://www.discodsp.com/highlife/

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:29 pm

nebulae wrote:Suggestion for CPU: Resample your patches and create Simple/Sampler instruments. Might be a bit of work, but could do the trick. Alternatively, use the sampler instrument creator found in samplers like DirectWave that sample your synths and create low-cpu sample machines. http://www.image-line.com/documents/directwave.html
You could do that but you lose a lot of what's good about it - The tweakability and dynamics of it. I'd prefer to create the passages and freeze myself but to each their won.
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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by nebulae » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:37 pm

^agreed, just offering suggestions for people running out of headroom.

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by 3dot... » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:45 pm

deva wrote: Hey what's the hurry with Bazille, it is awesome as is and is currently free!!!
my only grip with it
(and also TyrellN6..and the current DIVA)
lfos controls cannot be mapped..
what tha ?

also.. again..and this includes ACE.. no audio input !
what's a modular without audio input ?!
why not take emulation that extra mile...?

Urs says it's performance issues..
but I think it's really important feature for all of his modulars..
and would raise the 'value' of his synths (at least imo)
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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by UncleAge » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:57 pm

deva wrote:I read Uhbik-X is shelved (permanently?) due to unexpected technical problems with the concept.
this is probably correct. i think his head was in a different place then as well. he had a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. he seems to get a little upset when folks bring it up as a question, so i don't. i figure he's just going to stay where he feels comfortable and that's dealing with synths. however, mfm2, filterscape, uhbiks and zebrify are all pretty awesome (especially zebrify). so when he said he was thinking about doing it i think everyone started to think omg, he's going to do something really special, again.

oh well. it's just one of many disappointments that we deal with. funny thing is that for about a year, to a year and a half, i was hoping that uhbik-x, rob papen's sound design dvd and a tutorial on additive synthesis from camel audio would materialize. none did. all of which coming from the companies that i hold in the highest regard. still do really. it's just disappointing is all i can say.

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by willdahbe » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 am

This synth is just amazing! Has blown every other VA out the water in terms of sound and ease of use. (for me)

Sure the cpu is a bit high, and the lfo's might not be mappable. I'm sure if you write to them, it can be implemented. And there is nothing saying you can't record to audio and move the little knob with your mouse.

Otherwise this synth will most certainly replace all my other VA's or at least they be used way less.

I'm a big fan of 80's, nu disco, and italio disco sounds/style and this thing nails it soooooo well. The envelops are so damn nice, and it just seems to sound how i've always wanted a VA to sound.

I love analog hardware, but anymore it's just to expensive for me to get my hands on. This looks like it might be able to replace my need/want for a juno 60 and undecided mono synth. I never really get too excited about plugins, but this shit is just pure win!

P.S. I wont sleep tonight because of Diva

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by flowdesigner » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:45 am

nebulae wrote:^agreed, just offering suggestions for people running out of headroom.

Thats an option for polyfiying your used slim phatty :)


I rather just slice in Live to a drum rack after a midi clip playing chromatically

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by robleighton22 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:22 pm

really like this synth. been planning to get a juno, but may just a decent enough controller to control this properly. very impressed

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by agent314 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:56 am

I couldn't give less of a shit about analog emulation or authenticity or any of it, but man - this thing sounds FANTASTIC

So easy to dial in amazing sounds

I think one of my favorite features is the "trimmers" section that automatically randomizes VCO detune so you get some of the unpredictability of a real instrument, but always within reason :D

Pity I don't have even $120 to drop on it and probably won't for the foreseeable future, because I'd surely be buying this one

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Re: New U-He Frankensynth! Mix and match classic analogs (DIVA).

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:47 pm

I won't be missing my Korg MS-20 anymore (I sold my legacy collection trying to trim down) with this around. Does such a great MS-20 but with filter FM too. Love it. Time to break out the MS-20 controller again. Only this time it'll sound authentic. 8O
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