To force a parameter to return to a specific value by itself

[RSinier]

Hi.

So here is what I want to do: to force a parameter to return to a specific value automatically, when inactive for X ms.
In fact I'm trying to emulate a kind of pitch wheel with a regular knob, and I want the value to return to 50%, or 0% or whatever, when I'm done tweaking it.
Of course without using automation.

I think it's impossible but who knows…

Thanks.

[oddstep]

if its a big deal you can throw money at the problem. some controller's will do this - for example the x y controller on the padkontrol behaves like that. and then of course there there is the obvious "max for live would help you achieve that". it might be cheaper to use a dummy clip that is triggered whenever a parameter is adjusted. the midi routing makes my head spin though.

[RSinier]

I've been looking for a standalone pitch/mod wheel but didn't found any, and I don't have the skills to build one myself.
And, yes, I don't have Max.

[Coupe70]

ClyphX could help here I guess.

[JuanSOLO]

ClyphX could help here I guess.

Thats what I was thinking

[RSinier]

That seems interesting, I'll check on that, thanks.

[Tone Deft]

make a second clip identical to the one you're playing and draw in the automation at it the preset level you want. then launch the clip when you want it to reset or make use of Follow Actions for it to automatically go to the new clip. also search the forum for 'dummy clips' to see another option.

[RSinier]

That cannot works because I'm not using clips on this one, I'm playing live with a synth.

[JuanSOLO]

make a second clip identical to the one you're playing and draw in the automation at it the preset level you want. then launch the clip when you want it to reset or make use of Follow Actions for it to automatically go to the new clip. also search the forum for 'dummy clips' to see another option.

But with this option you have to keep the parameter at a specific value. For example, if you want to reset Macro 1 to a value of 64, Macro 1 must stay at 127. If you had turned Macro 1 down to 0 and hit your "reset" dummy clip, nothing will happen.

ClyphX will actually reset the dial to the specified value.

[Coupe70]

Hm, it KIND OF works with ClyphX, but it doesn't make a very reliable impression
which I guess is not ClyphX' fault...

I mapped volume of track 2 to a MIDI slider. Then I made a ClyphX clip on another track:
[] (LSEQ) DUMMY ; 2/VOL 108
Launch quantization is set to NONE, Loop is on. So every time I move the slider volume on
track 2 is tweaked AND the ClyphX clip is launched - in first loop it does nothing. When it
is not retriggered all the time by slider movement it reaches loop 2 and resets volume on
track 2 to 0dB.

So far so good.
But every time I move the slider Live's GUI freezes as long as I move it, sometimes I even
get a sandglass for some seconds afterwards. Windows task manager shows that CPU usage gets
close to 100% sometimes ! And all that with a minimal testing setup - one audio, one ClyphX
clip, one MIDI mapping. Audio output is not affected in my test set, but this trick does not
seem recommendable.
Strange...

Setting the launch quantization to a higher level does not help, so it seems to be the MIDI
mapping generating more trigger commands than Live can handle when using a slider with MIDI
CC for triggering clips...

[Tone Deft]

Juan - disagree but don't really care, OP's problem, not mine. I'd want to try it to see the behavior you mean. it doesn't make any sense so I think I'm misreading you, I know you get this siht.

if you want it to act like a pitch wheel and you're using a synth, assign it to the pitch wheel.

good luck!

[JuanSOLO]

Juan - disagree but don't really care.

I dont want to hijack the thread, but I would love to know why you disagree and how this works, point me in the right direction please, that has always puzzled me.

[Tone Deft]

I think we're both at work. I'd want to try it. I've done this enough times to know that Live can have weird corner cases or sometimes one just forgets.

[RSinier]

Juan - disagree but don't really care, OP's problem, not mine. I'd want to try it to see the behavior you mean. it doesn't make any sense so I think I'm misreading you, I know you get this siht.

if you want it to act like a pitch wheel and you're using a synth, assign it to the pitch wheel.

good luck!

Well… I don't have a pitch wheel, hence my question.

[JuanSOLO]

I hate recommending 3rd party stuff when someones in need, but I re-read some of your posts and I started thinking that Bome's would most likely do this with it's "timers" feature, but maybe not.

M4L would certianly accomplish it.

However, I though ClyphX would work well. I may try it when I get home.