Tweaking Mac for Music

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
bassik
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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by bassik » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:47 am

Hello,

is your problem related to a specific Ableton project?

Are you using a lot of samples warped with complex or complex pro algorithm?

If so, please change all your sample to Beat, texture or the third one (don't remember now) and see if the drop-outs still exist.

Also do a check with Ableton checkes in the preferences.

report back if it works please.

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by trevox » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:16 pm

pencilrocket wrote:Just ignore trevox as he is always crossing bridges before he come to them. Pathological macfag. He can't read "if you can" sentense as he can't understand the charts in the article. :lol:
Fact is I don't like people who post flawed studies without any actual experience in an effort to "help" someone. User experience is the single most important thing when creating music as you want to be able to do things quickly - it's not all about how many VST's you can cram into a track. Personally I would prefer to use one or two less VST's and use my OS of choice as I find I don't have as many issues and can spend more time making music - this is an opinion shared by many. You cannot grasp this concept at all as you are blinded by your hatred of apple. You see, I do not hate windows - I use it every day and used it for years for creating music. I just prefer OSX - particularly for audio applications. It is my personal opinion. You do not use apple products, so once again, I struggle to understand how you can post an arbitrary study and base your reasoning on why everyone should use Windows on that - in EVERY post you come across. I think you will find that your behaviour is a lot more pathological than mine.

Now I am bored with all of this - as is probably anyone else reading it.

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by rikhyray » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:43 pm

trevox wrote:
pencilrocket wrote:Just ignore trevox as he is always crossing bridges before he come to them. Pathological macfag. He can't read "if you can" sentense as he can't understand the charts in the article. :lol:
Fact is I don't like people who post flawed studies without any actual experience in an effort to "help" someone. User experience is the single most important thing when creating music as you want to be able to do things quickly - it's not all about how many VST's you can cram into a track. Personally I would prefer to use one or two less VST's and use my OS of choice as I find I don't have as many issues and can spend more time making music - this is an opinion shared by many. You cannot grasp this concept at all as you are blinded by your hatred of apple. You see, I do not hate windows - I use it every day and used it for years for creating music. I just prefer OSX - particularly for audio applications. It is my personal opinion. You do not use apple products, so once again, I struggle to understand how you can post an arbitrary study and base your reasoning on why everyone should use Windows on that - in EVERY post you come across. I think you will find that your behaviour is a lot more pathological than mine.

Now I am bored with all of this - as is probably anyone else reading it.
Why do you bother at all about the "maniac on a mission". The poster in question seems to have serious emotional and mental issues- it is not about one OS or other, this DAW or other. It could be anything really, not just computer related, it is about obsession, lost sense of reality and this should be handled by a professional , not some musicians, DJs or producers.
This forum has seen couple of such cases, music production forum is not replacement for professional medical help. More attention (bothering about) response such a poor, lost being gets, worse for everyone, the forum getting bombarded with same obsessive "ideas" in obnoxious manner, irritating those interested in music and production, while the true issue (getting medical help) wont get solved.

Regarding the topic. Might be or not the case, but I had similar issues before.
I noticed audio issues, on not so CPU intense projects ( using mostly Reason Record but that does not make much difference I suppose) and found out that defragmentation fixes it. So learnt about another internet/Apple myth "Mac does not need defragmenting". OSX is definitely much more efficient and for normal use does not need extra care but music or audio is something else.
I suspect that Reason/Record was worse in efficient writing of data (I have not notice this issue before using Live or other software), anyway the point is- it was the cause and since discovering it, I repeatedly used it to fix similar issues. I dont care what iDiots or microdiots might quarrel about, just sharing my own production experience.
Edit:
Another - related to defrag- tip/tweak, is having partitions (Mac myth #2 no need for partition).
Since some 10 years I use at least 3 partitions- OS, Live (where the projects are, not only Live) and Samples. That made moving from computer to computer easy (even Mac>Win>Mac whatever) but makes defrag easier. The OS partition requires it most, while the "Samples" hardly any since it contains only "static" data, every now and then getting something added on.
If you follow the "myth" (Mac does not require any partitioning) you wont be able to use iDefrag or any other software properly unless you would do it using another computer. OS partition cannot be taken "offline" to optimize.
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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by heavensdaw » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:02 pm

rikhyray wrote: Why do you bother at all about the "maniac on a mission". The poster in question seems to have serious emotional and mental issues- it is not about one OS or other, this DAW or other. It could be anything really, not just computer related, it is about obsession, lost sense of reality and this should be handled by a professional , not some musicians, DJs or producers.
This forum has seen couple of such cases, music production forum is not replacement for professional medical help. More attention (bothering about) response such a poor, lost being gets, worse for everyone, the forum getting bombarded with same obsessive "ideas" in obnoxious manner, irritating those interested in music and production, while the true issue (getting medical help) wont get solved.
:lol: Maybe she will help Image

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by trevox » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:04 pm

rikhyray wrote: Why do you bother at all about the "maniac on a mission". The poster in question seems to have serious emotional and mental issues- it is not about one OS or other, this DAW or other. It could be anything really, not just computer related, it is about obsession, lost sense of reality and this should be handled by a professional , not some musicians, DJs or producers.
This forum has seen couple of such cases, music production forum is not replacement for professional medical help. More attention (bothering about) response such a poor, lost being gets, worse for everyone, the forum getting bombarded with same obsessive "ideas" in obnoxious manner, irritating those interested in music and production, while the true issue (getting medical help) wont get solved.
I don't know - it's like watching awful reality TV shows - you don't want to do it, but you just can't help yourself!! Maybe you should create some kind of liquid that will aid in his rehabilitation :)

You're right though - I will do my best to refrain in future!

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by rikhyray » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:28 pm

trevox wrote:
rikhyray wrote: Maybe you should create some kind of liquid that will aid in his rehabilitation :)

You're right though - I will do my best to refrain in future!
No, no, no we do not go this way, even for legal reasons, do not ever make any health claims (not to mention that this case requires huge syringe or electroshocks not e cig). That is the trap tobacco and pharmaceutical lobbies would love to catch e cig industry into -"health claims". However I imagine you could be "treated" through vapoyoga liquids, tasting so good that you forget about the rest (that could easily include windoze maniacs) and enjoy blissful, ecstatic state.
Meanwhile I got few good compositions, I am happy with and people love them, but there is still more work to do to be able to send people into "blissful, ecstatic states" with just few puffs.

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by pencilrocket » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:56 pm

trevox wrote:Fact is I don't like people who post flawed studies without any actual experience in an effort to "help" someone.
We don't care whether you like or not. If you have a test result which is counter evidence for the other test result just show it to us. We'll use it by ourselfs. Even if you are trying to help it doesn't necessarily mean the other persons are not helping. Your logic is rather flawed obviously.
User experience is the single most important thing when creating music
That's your personal taste. We are living in 21 centry. Everyone but you get information and judge things from mathmatical result.
as you want to be able to do things quickly - it's not all about how many VST's you can cram into a track.
CPU performs quicker if there are head room left. Your sophism is odd.
Personally I would prefer to use one or two less VST's and use my OS of choice as I find I don't have as many issues and can spend more time making music - this is an opinion shared by many.
Personally, my, many. Cool. :lol:

You cannot grasp this concept at all as you are blinded by your hatred of apple. You see, I do not hate windows - I use it every day and used it for years for creating music.
Is this flawed conjecture? Personal speculation? Or something?
I just prefer OSX - particularly for audio applications. It is my personal opinion.
We already knew your 'personal' opinion, me too as I was said "Also, the article listed in a previous post is subjective" because of that personal taste. Your personal opinion is very useful.
You do not use apple products, so once again, I struggle to understand how you can post an arbitrary study and base your reasoning on why everyone should use Windows on that - in EVERY post you come across. I think you will find that your behaviour is a lot more pathological than mine.
Probably you can't read sentense carefully because of your anger or biased way of thinking. There are no "should" in this thread. We are suggesting something with redundancy. You can clearly see "if you can" word in previous conversation. Take a rest and cool off your macfag fever...
Now I am bored with all of this - as is probably anyone else reading it.
You looks rather upset than bored..

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by trevox » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:38 pm

Just stop, you are making a fool of yourself.

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by heavensdaw » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:46 pm

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by fishmonkey » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:18 pm

rikhyray wrote: If you follow the "myth" (Mac does not require any partitioning) you wont be able to use iDefrag or any other software properly unless you would do it using another computer. OS partition cannot be taken "offline" to optimize.
i'm not sure what you mean here, since you always need to boot from a separate volume to do a full defrag. you don't need another computer, you can just boot from an external drive (or DVD, but that is much slower).

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by pencilrocket » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:53 am

trevox wrote:Just stop, you are making a fool of yourself.
Don't try to control the others. Noob child.

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by bassik » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:57 am

This should be a place for exchange of idea or for helping other users...I cannot see any help topic here...

Unsubscribe...bad...

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Re: Tweaking Mac for Music

Post by rikhyray » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:46 pm

fishmonkey wrote: i'm not sure what you mean here, since you always need to boot from a separate volume to do a full defrag. you don't need another computer, you can just boot from an external drive (or DVD, but that is much slower).
Of course you are right. Why I wrote computer instead of drive , maybe single espresso is not enough for winter morning, should double the dosis, at least before writing something sensible.Anyway the point was - partitions can be time savers.

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