New Drum Pad controller from M-Audio

Rahlo · Post by **Rahlo** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:00 pm

Strauzzie wrote:Adam (or anyone who has used one) -

Did you try switching between presets while playing? Any noticeable delay / load time when you do that?

If you switch presets via the enigma software there's a delay, but if you do it from the triggerfinger itself it's pretty instantaneous I think.

TheAnimal · Post by **TheAnimal** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:12 pm

AdamJay wrote:
TheAnimal wrote:Does the Triggerfinger have polyphonic aftertouch?
yes it does.

Are you shure? I just downloaded the manual which says "channel aftertouch". That means "not polyphonic", doesn't it?

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:21 am

Are you shure? I just downloaded the manual which says "channel aftertouch". That means "not polyphonic", doesn't it?

He´s sure! So am I...

TheAnimal · Post by **TheAnimal** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:40 am

And what is the manual talking about when it says "channel aftertouch"?

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:03 am

I have no clue what "channel aftertouch" means. But I do know - since my Trigger Finger is right here together with the Enigma software - that each pad can send an independent midi CC that is controlled by how hard you press the pad in question.

Bada-bing-bada-boom!

TheAnimal · Post by **TheAnimal** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:02 pm

Thank you!

supster · Post by **supster** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:02 pm

so ... other than the pads arranged in a grid pattern, and the novelty "coolness " factor

what can you do with this that you cant duplicate with a midi keyboard?

ie: seems like you can do everything this does by mapping keys on your keyboard to drums slots / clips

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:09 pm

My point exactly, Supster. I can map 37 clips/scenes to my Ozonic keys + another 14 to buttons, and another 90 if I want to transpose octaves (1 switch). It's the coolness factor & nostalgic MPC look, I think.

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:11 pm

supster wrote:so ... other than the pads arranged in a grid pattern, and the novelty "coolness " factor

what can you do with this that you cant duplicate with a midi keyboard?

ie: seems like you can do everything this does by mapping keys on your keyboard to drums slots / clips

That's true... if you have a keyboard to which you can assign different CCs to different key's aftertouch. Apart from that - yes - very much like any keyboard in functionality. But playing the pads feel nothing like playing keys... It's a matter of taste I guess!

Cheers,
Mikael

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:17 pm

Well, i just ordered one.
I enjoy the midi keyboard and the faderfox lx-1.

But i really need something to slam on.
Also i need something portable that is velocity sensitive.

So that i dont need the keyboard everytime i want make some velocity sensitive patches.

In the end. I am laughing at the irony.

I swore never to buy an m-audio product again. But eventually my finger triggered that buy button.

ejectorset · Post by **ejectorset** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:36 pm

supster wrote:so ... other than the pads arranged in a grid pattern, and the novelty "coolness " factor

what can you do with this that you cant duplicate with a midi keyboard?

you have never banged a beat out on an mpc have you?

apalomba · Post by **apalomba** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:57 pm

I think the big difference between trigger finger and a keyboard is the movment of your fingers. On a keyboard you can peck at keys and trigger
things, but a drum pad arrangement allows you more space to really get
in there and beat out things that would probably tie your fingers in knots if you played it on a keyboard. I like Trigger Finger because after having played piano for most of my life, it makes me think about music in a different way. I can't wait to get my hands on one!

jethrosipho · Post by **jethrosipho** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:58 pm

Here's what you can't do on a keyboard: hold down a key, press harder and lighter and have that pressure sensitivity trigger other events, aka a volume level on a secondary track.

On a keyboard, in general you hit a note and release, there is no 'in between'

Check the demo song that comes with it, where holding a pad harder or lighter results in opening a secondary volume channel, which has a repeating snare, achieving the rolling snare effect loved on MPCs.

This might work with aftertouch though?
J

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:34 pm

jethrosipho wrote:This might work with aftertouch though?
J

Yep. But that's only one controller message for all keys. On the Trigger Finger you can set different controllers for every pad!

Cheers,
Mikael

BBrock · Post by **BBrock** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:52 pm

love my triggerfinger had it about a month... still using default presets #10 & #11 for impulse. have tried to set paramaters using the library with no success. has anyone gotten the engima software to work with triggerfinger? read and reread the manual, dumb me no clue as the parameters assigned even after uploading to computer have no effect... appreciate it if anyone knows of any tutorial links.. or just to hear engima software works...?

Brock