leonard.cucos wrote:Quiz for people asking: Is this "Ableton or not"
1. Can Session \ Arrangement view be separated in two different windows?
2. Do you have multiple monitor support?
3. Do you have intuitive arrangement view?
4. Can Multiple users jam on the same document, everything being able to be captured in the document's
arrangement?
5. Do you have deep midi editing?
6. Is this multi-platform? No, no, no. Linux included! (?)
quizz for you: how many of these request where ableton live main requests? like about 100 percent?
mholloway wrote:I thought I'd seen the depths of internet-bred idiocy but for the music-tech community, this has got to be an all new low. Just unbelievable. Ableton_David shows up to dispell what was already the dumbest of dumb "rumors," says point blank "you guys are wrong" and yet STILL they post their nonesense "yeah but it still could be Live 9!!"
to people that don't tolerate reflexion, just go kill yourself. If you beleive everything we tell you on
the internet officially that's a good thing for you. i dont, that don't mean i got to be insulted. I prefer beeing
a fuckwit that question itself than a sheep taking all we 'officially' say as valid and accept without reflexion.
Were all phone manufacturers saying officially they tracked your datas until they were 'officially' discovered recently? Was ableton officially commenting on PDC issues as long as users weren't insisting on that, or did they bring the share feature or other they were 'officially' announcing? does evey corporation inform the user on who got share parts in it?
does re-branding exists?
As said earlier i took david answer as 'official' and accepted the idea that they were two products/compagnies, so then i didn't say it was L9 anymore please re-read if you are able to. i just don't beleive that if so there weren't kind of deal/co lab if they were in good terms, and afirmed that i was, and am still convinced bitwig video demo was made by same people that made anterious live demos, this and the fact it was 1:1 abused clone oriented me to the co-lab scenario.perfect . so ok now if i take the official answer as valid, i assume no -collab but clash, and if so i deduce personally that bitwig is the ex-ableton core that had the balls to rewrite, and that ableton lost a big part of the pgm team , wich explain all the L8 mess, and is about to take a giant front hit in the face and pay the price of the non-rewrite at the time it should have done it. that certainly is good for user/concurence and quality of the two products, but is not for ableton.
the 3 or more scenarios are totally possible imo, and 36 percent wondering is not low enough to un-validate that question.
there are lot of case in history when majority doesn't mean intelligence. David ghetta is a majority accepted good artist.. long life to fuckwits' cheers guys