Help! Arturia plugins crash Live!

[vgermani]

I have a Live set that includes external midi tracks, midi tracks that control automation, and tracks with Arturia AU plugins (Analog Lab, V-Collection). I can set up all of the tracks and get everything working, however, when I exit and reload the Live set, Live crashes. If I open live while holding down 'alt' to disable all plugins, the set will open. If I delete all of the Arturia plugin tracks, I can reopen the Live set every time. As soon as I add the plugin again (any of them), I can't open up the set.

Is anyone else using any Arturia AU plugins (Mac) with Live? Is there a trick? I love the sounds of the Arturia plugins but I'm extremely disappointed with the stability and features of the product. I'm hoping it's something I can get worked out.

Thanks in advance for any tips!

BTW--I'm using Live 8.1 and Arturia plugins with latest updates.

[vgermani]

Was able to spend more time with this. It seems to be the specific combination of Ableton, Arturia (Analog Lab and/or V-coll), and a Max effect. I've tried other Max devices and it doesn't fail. This specific Max effect sends Midi data out of a track to another external Max program.

If I launch ableton disabling the plugins (hold alt), then either delete the Arturia plugins, or the Max effect, then save and reopen, everything works fine. It is the specific combination of both types of devices.

I'll post this over to the Max group as well. Any ideas??

Thanks

[puzl]

I've had constant crashes with Arturia Vcollection2.0 synths and Live. I've sent in a plethora of crash reports over the past year, but, unfortunately it's still rather crash-prone to this day. It's the Prophet 2.0 AU or VST that seems to cause the most issues for me. I've notified Arturia of it as well