the future of hip hop is at 140 bpm

[JuanSOLO]

so, what do you mean as "core"?

Dub Toasters, in general
Kool Herc
Afrikaa Bambaataa, he might have his own XM radio show on friday nights but ask somebody if they know Bambataa when the ask you to play more "hip hop" at some random DJ set.
Grandmaster Flash
Furious 5
MC Lyte - Paper Thin
Erick B & Rakim
Kool Kieth
Beastie Boys - Pauls Boutique
KRS One - one of the best shows I ever saw in SF circa 2007?
Scratch Pickles
X-Ecutioners
ATCQ, any album
Black Sheep - 1st Album
Cypress Hill - 1st Album
Project Blowed - maybe the "Good Life" documentary?
Mos Def
Jurassic 5
Casual
Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand
DJ Screw
One Be Lo
Ise Lyfe
O.F.

just to name a few.

Most of the time when I hear the words "Hip Hop" it's quickly followed by something like "ya know Jay Z, Kanye, Lil Wayne"

Fuck that!

[simmerdown]

nas

[JuanSOLO]

"NY state of mind"

[pencilrocket]

I don't believe it's hip hop.

[lethal_pizzle]

If rapping over whatever sound is currently fashionable is hip-hop, then I'd like to submit 'Snap - Rhythm is a Dancer' for scrutiny as a potential hip-hop classic.

[noland]

Once Hip Hop was the collective name of the 4 elements Turntablism, Rap, Breakdancing and Writing (aka Grafiti). It got lost when hip hop moved on and became mainstream and mtv and magazines had to pin labels to records to fuel the sell out. Its the way the story goes.

just my 0,02

[dylandigits]

I know you all slept on them back in the 80s, but this crew had the most style and finesse the rap game ever saw. They were really cooking, no doubt. I think Rakim, KRS, and Big Daddy Kane have all cited this crew as influential to their styles.

Anyway, listen to this classic. It's hot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho

[cotdagoo]

those are called remixes..they can call it what they want, but 'vox pulled from the vaults' without the participation of the artists are remixes

I guess.. just saying this is nothing new, or the 'future' of something. If this does end up being the 'future' of hiphop, it's only because dubstep is one of the trendiest and popular forms of electronic music right now.

When I dj shows in my city it's only been the past year or so some of the hiphop crews have been asking for dubstep tracks to freestyle over.. and it's not because they've got their ears to the ground for fresh new sounds.. If that was the case, they'd have heard about dubstep years ago instead of just recently. IMO it just seems like a easy catalyst to make yourself a career, or revive what you once had by attaching yourself to whatever is hip/trendy/popular.

I dunno, I just think hiphop used to push the boundaries, and innovate, and have something to say.. and I'm sure that kinda stuff is still out there if you look.. But a well known, historic group attaching themselves to a current music trend is certainly a decline if I ever saw one.

[JuanSOLO]

I dunno, I just think hiphop used to push the boundaries, and innovate, and have something to say..

It gets harder and harder to find current hip hop that has any of these qualities. Damn shame.

[simmerdown]

ok, thread title change

HERES SOME GUYS CASHING IN ON THE LATEST TREND

but i cant say that bc cypres are too fukin cool, giants
and rusko is an original, like skream or benga, whos been there since the beginnning of dubstep

[mdk]

I dunno, I just think hiphop used to push the boundaries, and innovate, and have something to say..

It gets harder and harder to find current hip hop that has any of these qualities. Damn shame.

maybe Danny Brown - XXX.

[regretfullySaid]

Yeah, ended up sounding really generic...

[JuanSOLO]

maybe Danny Brown - XXX.

thanks for that

[mdk]

maybe Danny Brown - XXX.

thanks for that

for me XXX is the best album ive heard in years in any genre. and its free

http://www.foolsgoldrecs.com/xxx/

[JuanSOLO]

I was into this for a while, not crazy about the whole album, but it's got a couple of hot trax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t1iG8KlJys

Also this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaKgoav7jkk