velocity range...automatically?

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ramangill
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velocity range...automatically?

Post by ramangill » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:28 pm

Let's say I have a snare drum roll, machine gun style, that spans 4 bars. I am wondering is there a way to select the 4 bars and tell Live that the range will be for velocity 10-127 and spread it equally among the 4 bars so that the velocity increases?

I have seen this in Logic and Cubase, but I can not seem to get it in Live?

I can draw it in, but its never clean and do it manually is a real pain.

I would have to assume that there must be a way.
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agent314
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by agent314 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:25 pm

Do you want a ramp up?

You can hold Ctrl/Cmd and clickdrag in the velocity part of the clip window to create a linear ramp-up like a drumroll

You could also try using the Velocity plugin to set a fixed velocity and automating that

ramangill
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by ramangill » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:54 pm

agent314 wrote:Do you want a ramp up?

You can hold Ctrl/Cmd and clickdrag in the velocity part of the clip window to create a linear ramp-up like a drumroll

You could also try using the Velocity plugin to set a fixed velocity and automating that
Yes I want to ramp up....exactly that.
so I click cmd (mac) and select my 4 bars...but then what? Sorry I did not get you?
no tools within Live? What plugin do you know of that can do this?
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anamexis
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by anamexis » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:15 pm

The Velocity device is a tool within Live, under MIDI effects.

i3igTripplets
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by i3igTripplets » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:15 pm

I don't think there is one, annoying as that may sound. CTRL Clicking just lets you slide the VEL up or down on the midi note, you can do 1 at a time or multiple, but theres not a ramp up feature.

i3igTripplets
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by i3igTripplets » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:21 am

http://imgur.com/sldsG

Make sure that the E in the lower left is pressed to show clip envelopes. Then select the Snare Mixer from the first drop down in envelopes... then draw accordingly.

If you want to know how to do something similar in arrangement mode, just say so.

hth

su
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by su » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:26 pm

see page 148 of the manual for agent314's method of drawing a velocity ramp. Very useful IMO

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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by i3igTripplets » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:49 pm

The probelm he'll encounter is it doesn't evenly ramp up, you have to accurately place each hit. A useful thing to know however, as I use it daily.
su wrote:see page 148 of the manual for agent314's method of drawing a velocity ramp. Very useful IMO

Komodovaran
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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by Komodovaran » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:45 pm

Automate the velocity sensitivity in Simpler, and just set the velocity for all snare hits to 127.

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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by Komodovaran » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Wait, here's another one:

Set velocity sensitivity to 100% in Simpler, and use a Velocity plugin, with a fixed velocity. Then automate the "Out Hi" knob.

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Re: velocity range...automatically?

Post by i3igTripplets » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:01 pm

Niice.
Heck I might just try using an EQ3 and automate bringing in the mid and hi, and keep the low full the entire time, an EQ filter roll
Komodovaran wrote:Wait, here's another one:

Set velocity sensitivity to 100% in Simpler, and use a Velocity plugin, with a fixed velocity. Then automate the "Out Hi" knob.

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