Does Live 8 Support Sysex ???

[Heelwing]

+1

[Muzik 4 Machines]

no and its a real PITA working with hardware, they should know better

[Machinesworking]

Lack of SysEx support is the single reason I won't shell out $200 to upgrade to Live 8. I was pretty bummed to find out that Live 7 didn't support SysEx. My money since then had to be spent on a competitive upgrade to another DAW program (MOTU DP6). I'd *love* to use Live instead, but without SysEx support... I'm about ready to just remove it from my hard drive at this point. I certainly wouldn't recommend Live to any owner of a serious workstation.

Live is great at what it does, and DP is great at what it does. Again, if you need all the features of a 20+ year old sequencer like Cubase, Digital Performer or Logic just get one of those sequencers and use Live for what it's good at.

Case in point, I'm mixing down some Pro Tools recording studio tracks of my band in DP7, it's been great, but I've run into a nasty glitch in the system with some rather over rendered bass lines and my drummers tracks. DP IMO isn't so great for fixing timing errors while Live is freaking amazing at just this sort of problem. So today that track goes into Live and I'm sure I can fix this without it being a big issue.

It's frustrating at times dealing with any sort of software, but it's fucking amazing that we have all this available as average people with small incomes. I'm grateful, and well over thinking any one DAW will make me happy alone. Take a look at ANY professional recording artist interview and they use two or three DAWs: Live and big DAW like Cubase/Sonar/Logic/DP, then they go to a Studio that usually mixes it down in Pro Tools, and they think nothing of it, no complaining about how Live doesn't do this or DP can't do that, just saying.

[Muzik 4 Machines]

the big issue is that live just discards SYSEX, not even passing it thru
and live made a HUGE deal of the hardware integration with external instruments/FX, but most of my boxes full potential can only be achieved via SYSEX, so i'm stuck with oh wow, volume and porta time available on 3 of my 5 synths cause all other parameters are SYSEX

[Machinesworking]

the big issue is that live just discards SYSEX, not even passing it thru
and live made a HUGE deal of the hardware integration with external instruments/FX, but most of my boxes full potential can only be achieved via SYSEX, so i'm stuck with oh wow, volume and porta time available on 3 of my 5 synths cause all other parameters are SYSEX

Yeah Live is only adequate for external synths. Not at all disagreeing with you, hell it only recently stopped arbitrarily assigning the first 128 parameters of soft synths and FX and nothing else? I like the smooth uninterrupted audio workflow in Live but the automation is only so so, both in mix down and building tracks. Also, DP can be a beeyoch with loops, not always, but that's definitely where Live shines.

The main points in Live that are great are IMO the aforementioned audio glitch-lessness, the looping via Session View, and the pitch/time stretching. To some the GUI and simple workflow is appealing. MIDI if you have any sort of NRPN or SysEx hardware synths etc. and if you care to integrate that into your set up or want advanced automation features is a total weak point! and a reason to use a dinosaur DAW like DP or Cubase etc.