Live 5: A competent DAW?

Captain Screwbarb · Post by **Captain Screwbarb** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:11 pm

"I dont get it. Why would people do this? Do they make a profit?"

Sure. Why wouldn't they?

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:50 pm

biadjo wrote:I guess what I wished for in my previous post is an implementation of rewire between Live and Logic similar to what one can do between Live and Reason.
With the latter, you can record audio from Reason into Live, control any of the Reason parameters and instruments directly from the Live arrange window, and everything is happening in perfect sync thanks to Rewire.

Hey bladjo,
you got me curious as to how to do this on one computer!

With two macs, the best way is to use the MIDI Network in AMS (Audio MIDI Setup ) , Plus Wormhole, but within one mac it's a little trickier oddly enough?

This time the free utility MidiPipe and one of the three audio routers (Wormhole, Jack Tools, or Soundflower ), is what you need.

Check out this thread at Sonikmatter for more information. I have it running fine, MidiPipe is sending data to Logic, including syching tempo. I'm controlling the ES1 and ES2 from Live 4. I'll definitely use it. Probably not as often as the networked system, though I bet latency is ZERO between apps this way, you get more CPU from two computers.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:28 pm

Just to add to that last post, if you are working an a dual CPU machine, Logic takes the second CPU. You lost NO power in Live 4.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:47 pm

[quote="Machinesworking"]I wouldn't call it expert, more like always searching for a way to better use the hardware and software I have.]

I am thinking about starting this as a new thread, y'all, with your permission to quote. Though all I have at my disposal is a powermac and my GF's ibook (I will wait for macintel before I finally get my own laptop) I think this approach which I strangely overlooked would certainly eliminate any dependancy on the limited (imo) rewire. Thanks for the heads up, Machinesworking.

If I'm not misunderstanding, is there some way to send logic to live (via a virtual interface maybe?), so that channels can be used without rewire? Perhaps I would need more ram, but I wouldn't need a new CPU yet (LOL), and besides this is the sort of reason bought Tiger for in the first place. That would be soooo cool. Whoa.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:57 pm

lofa,
the soundflower and midipipe combo should do the trick theoretically.
give it a try.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:02 pm

LOFA wrote:If I'm not misunderstanding, is there some way to send logic to live (via a virtual interface maybe?), so that channels can be used without rewire? Perhaps I would need more ram, but I wouldn't need a new CPU yet (LOL), and besides this is the sort of reason bought Tiger for in the first place. That would be soooo cool. Whoa.

Yeah, go ahead and read the Sonikmatter thread while you're setting it up, helps to have it open to the thread I think! It works fine, I had to fuss around with it a bit, but yeah, Live 4 was sending MIDI to Logic with two soft synths going.

I have a dual Gig G4, so it's possible to run out of CPU on the thing, and Logic is sooooo much more capable when it comes to dual CPUs, so I normally just run Logic on the dual and Live 4 on the powerbook, but if you have a dual G5, it would be better to keep Live on the G5 for sure.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:40 pm

I will try to sling something spectacular together in the next day or so. I will have a new place/ internet connection by sunday. This minute rate kinkos shite for the birds.

edit: AdamJay- just saw your post, will have to try it out after unpacking.