What is your take on using snippets of other artist's music?

[simmerdown]

if he had one, he would have used it, same frame of mind, different era...

that this happened is well documented fact...but i think they were paying homage, and going with what 'worked'

[steko]

http://www.everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/

[simmerdown]

nice one steko..wish i had time to watch rt now...but just from the title i'm guessing its just the point i'm trying make....

[nathannn]

i feel its fine to use samples in this way, often times its more difficult to create a track like this than it is creating something all your own.
the only thing is, if you get paid from the track so should the artist being sampled.
especially dont do like timberman did a few years ago and take a track from a broke guy, call it your own, make lots of money, and never give the original guy anything.

[memes_33]

frank zappa had a great position about art- as soon as you put a "frame" around something, it becomes art. silence itself isn't art, but when philip glass or whoever it was made a composition that contained 60 years of silence, he, in effect, put a "frame" around it and it became art(sorry if this example is inaccurate, but it gets my point across and i am too lazy to fact-check). same thing with "found" art- these are objects or scenes that existed before the artist "found" them, but it took the artist to actually "frame" it for it to become art.

as soon as you create something that you choose to call "art", it is. whether its good or not, well, that's what the audience is for. anyone can create art, but only great artists can create something that is meaningful to someone else.

so.the long-short of it is, if you are creating it and it feels right, then do it.

amon tobin makes all of his music out of other people's samples (until a few years ago when he started making his own as well), and i would be very disappointed with anyone on this forum who does not see his creations as artistically valid.

[H20nly]

if you want to hear how sampling is done right, check out this album.

People Under the Stairs - Highlighter.

except for another People Under the Stairs album... and despite all the songs you will recognize and the dozens more you won't.... you have never heard anything like it.

http://www.amazon.com/Highlighter-Peopl ... B005LZW6U6

[Komodovaran]

www.whosampled.com

[Tenshi]

if he had one, he would have used it, same frame of mind, different era...

that this happened is well documented fact...but i think they were paying homage, and going with what 'worked'

I think comparing Bach to Beastie boys is just stupid.

What Bach did was more like you listening to a track and liking the idea of using an arpeggiator or PWM synth pads and so 'copying' it. That is a WORLD away from lifting a sample, no matter how romantic and artistic you make it sound.

PS: You, incidentally, just said that if Beastie Boys didnt have samplers they wouldnt be able to make music...

[jellycaster]

personally, i think if you are using the clip or sample in a creative way, then this is artistically valid. if you are just lifting a part of someone else's song to use in your song because you can't come up with something better yourself, that is more worrying.

i see it as an homage, not thievery

and, its been done by every classical musician, bach, beethoven, 'ripping' themes from popular folk music, flipping it and calling it 'genius'

without sampling there would be no PE, no Tribe, no Beasties...fuuuuu, that would suk

RE PE, Beasties, etc, i would refer you to the first half of my post. I don't know how you can read that as an argument against sampling per se. it is an argument against LAZY sampling and plagiarism

[Tenshi]

Seems sampling is a lot like graffiti. People argue about whether it is art or defacing peoples property without realizing can be both.

You can be artistic and rip someone off at the same time.

[H20nly]

Seems sampling is a lot like graffiti. People argue about whether it is art or defacing peoples property without realizing can be both.

You can be artistic and rip someone off at the same time.

agreed.


- see People Under the Stairs post.

[pencilrocket]

If that's for your own educational purpose that'll be fine. But if it's used for your song which will be released that'll be illegal. Lawsuit will be waiting for you.

[Bebopbob]

Woah. Thanks for all the replies.

Turns out I won't be using that snippet anyway.

Tons of great info and opinions though!

[regretfullySaid]

They even had the same synth that I used to make the sound.

[The Carpet Cleaner]

I do it all the time so I don't have to work as hard as them to get their sounds.