Looper question for the experts out there

[victorypoint]

Hi folks. I have a Looper effect added to several tracks in Live 8. After recording and playing different loops in each Looper (on several tracks), I'd like to have a single foot controller button that stops all Loopers. I can stop all Loopers by stopping the global transport but this doesn't actually stop each Looper (they are still in a play state but paused because global transport is stopped). Starting one of the Loopers will start all of the Loopers which is what I don't want.

Tempo Control is set to 'Set and Follow Song Tempo’ and Song Control is set to 'Start Song' or 'Start and Stop Song' settings. Quantization is set to Global and loop length is set to 'x-bars'. I don't want to use None for Song Control as I want all Loopers synced to the global transport.

I'm using Live 8.2.2 on Windows 7 with a Sofstep foot controller. Any ideas on how I can implement a multiple Looper 'stop all' feature? Any help is greatly appreciated.

-AJ

[victorypoint]

No Looper experts out there?

[Muzik 4 Machines]

you will probably need either m4l or bomes to map a single controller to many stops on different tracks

[booksofbokonon]

It depends, if you are using a mac, you can use IAC Driver.If you are on a PC, supposedly Bomes can do the same thing:

1.Midi map each stop button (above the multi button)
2. Create a midi clip in a new midi track (column). Output to IAC Driver/Bomes.
3. Create a second midi track. Input from IAC Driver/Bomes.
4. Inside midi clip, beat 1: fill in the same midi notes for every stop button and turn quantize to "none"
5. Midi map the midi clip to a free footpedal on your softstep.

That should be all you need. What you are doing with IAC/Bomes is creating a dummy clip. If you aren't familiar with dummy clips do some searching around the forum and youtube.

[auron]

just map the one foot controller that you want to stop all the loopers to the small stop button on each looper (as mentioned in the previous post) which is located above the large multi button.

not sure why you guys are suggesting to use bome, etc. there is no reason to. if that foot controller sends a CC or note, that same CC or note can be mapped to each stop button on all the loopers.

[Muzik 4 Machines]

cause ableton live can't map a cc/note to more than one parameter, so to stop all loopers would need many switched, i think booksofbokonon is the best solution

[philipc]

The best solution would be to have a midi foot controller that'll send more than one midi command at once. What controller are you using? Otherwise, yep, booksofbokonon's solution seems to be the way.

[regretfullySaid]

Softstep is able to send more than one command/cc but it still might not be enough.
If you aren't able to map the same cc to each looper's stop, then Clyhpx should be able to do this, as long as you don't want to clear the looper.



In your case you need to plan out how you'll usually do your step-sequence. If it was just 1. Stop, 2.Play, your Clip would be:

[ID] (PSEQ) looper stop ; looper play

as another example could do it like:

[id] (PSEQ) looper rec ; looper play ; looper stop ; looper play

after the last one (the 2nd "looper play") it would start the sequence over again to "looper rec"

it's up to you
you can find it here:
http://beatwise.proboards.com/index.cgi ... production
then the manual is your bible.

[victorypoint]

Wow, thanks to everyone that provided these great suggestions. I had no idea a single MIDI or key map could trigger many Live actions as auron suggests. That was the solution that worked for me. I mapped a single Softstep button to all the Looper stop buttons.

Regarding shadx312's suggestion of using ClyphX, I actually tried it but ran into a few problems associated to the Looper action. See the known issues on http://beatwise.proboards.com/index.cgi ... thread=716.

My only dilemma now is to figure out how to start and stop individual Loopers using one or two buttons on my foot controller. MIDI mapping won't work because you can't map a single button to stop/start a Looper on the current track. ClyphX won't work in it's current state because of it's Looper bugs. If anyone knows of another solution, it would be greatly appreciated.

-AJ

[mocker]

Then, as it has been said before, your solution is a dummy clip that sends every individual stop buttons CCs at the same time, instead of using the same CC for all the stops.