any good tutorials on progressive psychedelic trance?

[arafel]

A tip for creating an arrangement structure for a track:

#1 - take a song you do like and deconstruct it.
Lay it out in Arrangement View, match the tempo of the project to the actual song.
Create several blank midi tracks.
Now.. play the song and in the blank midi tracks make clips and label them with what is happening in the song - so the clip matches the song position for that event.
Eg.. when there is a build up.. make a clip for during the build and label it 'build up'
when there is a drop or cymbol crash.. make a clip and label it 'crash', when the crash hits.

Do that for the entire song.. and you have an arrangement to build your own track to.
I use several midi tracks.. one for drums, pads, drops, fx, basslines, etc. As detailed as you want to go.
Its really informative.

#2 - Tarekith - arrangement guide
http://www.tarekith.com/assets/arranging.html

[Forge.]

well if I have to do the work for you:

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[Linear Phase]

I`v been told Progressive psy trance is all about question and answers.

I like that. Never heard that before, but its way cool, and true... The only thing I can say to help you is, "once you have your beat, try to make an arrangement, once you have your arrangement, try to weave your sounds in and out." The arrangement is key.. Without that, you will be all kinds of lost...

[Linear Phase]

i`m a learner in progress with love for a lot electronic music genres all my life.. that`s enough for me to try start and make music..

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say no, you're not a musician?

I can't play anything in the true sense, but I do know enough about music theory to put a tune together.

That's the key here (and the chords).

From your post, I got the impression that you had little or no musical knowledge or ability.

If you had, then (in my opinion) it shouldn't be hard to progress beyond a bassline and some drums.

That's just plain not cool. I know jazz theory through and through.. I've still had to put years of practice into production. I've played guitar for 13 years... The day I started down the road of becoming a music producer.. I sounded like a newbie.

Everybody has their own musical journey, why tell this guy he is not a musician? Music is the most common talent among the human species. Everybody communicates, and music is the universal language...

[102455]

why tell this guy he is not a musician?

Excuse me!

Where did I tell him he's not a musician?

I don't know him. How could I possibly know what he can and can't do?

That's why I'm ASKING if he knows anything about music - because (based on what he's posted so far) it seems to me that
he doesn't.

I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm trying to determine what it is that's causing him to stall at such an early stage.

[lc0]

hahah..lol Forge.,your really got me laughing good time...
I understand this is a forum for arrogant music geniuses with no place for "stupid" questions, i guess you have forgotten that yourself also sometime was a newbie?..Anyway i still got some constructive answers,thanks.

[ollyb303]

Yeah, don't worry mate, there really are some pricks on this forum who are so far up their own arses it's unreal. Just like every other Internet forum. At least you got something constructive out of it though.

[102455]

Oh so now you've resorted to name calling...

I gave that up when my age reached double digits.

Tell me - what's wrong with trying to get some background info out of someone, in order to help properly?

Sheeeeeesh!

[Forge.]

hahah..lol Forge.,your really got me laughing good time...
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I miss EvilEvil.... he wrote some funny posts.

[ollyb303]

hahah..lol Forge.,your really got me laughing good time...
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I miss EvilEvil.... he wrote some funny posts.

Didn't he just!

[stonee]

what a useful thread this has been!

[Sternenlicht]

I would recommend that you search for Tom Cosm´s tutorials on youtube, they tell you a lot about dubstep, but essentially this techniques could be adapted to psytrance aswell.
But techniques are only one thing.

http://www.youtube.com/user/cosmcosm?ob ... sults_main

Essentially when it comes to melodies, i would also recommend for a beginner, to label the midi keyboard with some dots, so you could find easy which notes belong to one chord.
And then check out chord tables, to see, which chords are in scale, and play around with it.
I know that will get you some nice melodies at first, and is not exactley psytrance, but you could alter harmonies later, with more experience. There are musical dissonances,
you want to exploit.

Read a Book on that matter.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Melody-Songwrit ... 249&sr=1-5

regards