Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by Linear Phase » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:19 pm

TheUriah wrote:
Linear Phase wrote:
TheUriah wrote:Transient detection is how ReCycle makes REX2 files.
Right.. k.. Recycle has transient detection. I never said it didn't. You are still better off slicing by hand. And recycle makes rex files, by saving them in the rex format, not by transient detect.
I'm curious what you think REX format is then. Cause it is an audio file with embedded data for "slice points", which are generated via transient detection. Have you ever even used ReCycle?
lol.. Hows bout.. I don't care enough about yours, or anybody else's production skills to continue the conversation. My thoughts are above, and that's that. btw, I have a license to recycle.
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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by JAMM » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:40 pm

Not able to move the markpoints in REX files.

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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by ze2be » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:49 pm

Right..
Try the warp mode Beats. Its very similar to rex files.

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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by TheUriah » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:53 pm

Linear Phase wrote:
TheUriah wrote:
Linear Phase wrote: Right.. k.. Recycle has transient detection. I never said it didn't. You are still better off slicing by hand. And recycle makes rex files, by saving them in the rex format, not by transient detect.
I'm curious what you think REX format is then. Cause it is an audio file with embedded data for "slice points", which are generated via transient detection. Have you ever even used ReCycle?
lol.. Hows bout.. I don't care enough about yours, or anybody else's production skills to continue the conversation. My thoughts are above, and that's that. btw, I have a license to recycle.
I wasn't questioning your "production skills". And you can have all the "thoughts" you want. But your "thought" that ReCycle doesn't use transient detection to create REX files is flat out wrong, and since someone came in here asking for details, I wanted to make sure he knew what the FACTS were and not just your incorrect beliefs.

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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by Linear Phase » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:01 pm

TheUriah wrote:I wasn't questioning your "production skills". And you can have all the "thoughts" you want. But your "thought" that ReCycle doesn't use transient detection to create REX files is flat out wrong, and since someone came in here asking for details, I wanted to make sure he knew what the FACTS were and not just your incorrect beliefs.

Omg, what is up with you? Where do I claim recycle does not have transient detection? Transient detection is not the process by which a file is saved. That type of information may be written into a file... But the actual rex files are created by, "saving," in the rex format.
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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by TheUriah » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:54 pm

Linear Phase wrote:
TheUriah wrote:I wasn't questioning your "production skills". And you can have all the "thoughts" you want. But your "thought" that ReCycle doesn't use transient detection to create REX files is flat out wrong, and since someone came in here asking for details, I wanted to make sure he knew what the FACTS were and not just your incorrect beliefs.

Omg, what is up with you? Where do I claim recycle does not have transient detection? Transient detection is not the process by which a file is saved. That type of information may be written into a file... But the actual rex files are created by, "saving," in the rex format.
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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by theophilus » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:52 pm

one thing with rex files is that you can't move the warp markers once you load it. i don't have a lot of rex files so i don't really know how limited it is, but this seems like an advantage for doing it yourself.

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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by arafel » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:42 pm

Rex files also print a fadeout unto the sound at the end of each slice.. a very small one, but it is there.

Try slicing a pad or sustained sound in Recycle.
Then load that Rex into Live, Logic, or anything (but Reason or Dr. Rex).
You can then see the fadeout plain as day.
There is no setting to disable this either - not with the envelopes, the decay, or the stretch.
That fadeout will always be there. It works great on beats, but not on a lot of material.
Recycle is a fantastic tool, but not for slicing everything.

So you need to know your tools, the material, and what your use will be.
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Re: Advantage of REX files over regular WAVs for use in Live?

Post by strode420 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:00 pm

REX files are worthless in Live imho. Whenever i use a REX file in Live, i end up bouncing it BACK to a freaking .wav (i have a bunch of Rex files from when i used to use Reason WAY back and from my partner who used Logic 7 for years).
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