Producers blues

[emotionz22]

Wow first off thank you everyone for your motivational and honest opinions it means a lot to know that im not alone...I never planned on quitting im just struggling with finishing tracks because i am my own worst critic and there is so much to learn musically sometimes i feel overwhelmed but im going to get my stuff together and just take a chance and put my stuff out...like i said this is just a fear of failure that is pulling me back and fourth ...one minute im all about music the next minute i get the blues because nothing is never finished ...I dont know if you ever had this problem but usually the first verse is easy to arrange but after that i get stuck because i know what it takes to make a track sound full ..the problem is HOW

I feel better knowing that its just a stage that a sister is going through because honestly i dont want a backup plan i just want to be able to understand how to make a full track so i can begin having fun with it again...i dont expect to make a hit right now i know im not going to master everything overnight im just so driven that my drive tends to the opposite because i want to be able to play effortlessly and make 5 to 10 beats per day...guess i just have to take it one day at a time...Once again thank you all for the advice its given me a lot to think about

[emotionz22]

BTW - do you have anything up on soundcloud or whatever? Even if just clips/unfinsihed stuff etc? Just curious what you do

no but Im going to open an account now and ill let you know when my stuff is up ...thank you for the advice as always i've noticed every time i post a thread your always kind enough to help me and i appreciate that

[ollyb303]

BTW - do you have anything up on soundcloud or whatever? Even if just clips/unfinsihed stuff etc? Just curious what you do

no but Im going to open an account now and ill let you know when my stuff is up ...thank you for the advice as always i've noticed every time i post a thread your always kind enough to help me and i appreciate that

Look forward to hearing your stuff

[Rabalder]

i dont want a backup plan

In 3 weeks Ill be homeless and without a job.
Gonna move into my car, play as many gigs as I possibly can, and let fate decide the rest.
Ill probably be dead in 6 months. Cant wait

[tech44]

OP - Take if from an older guy..this isn't so much about music about having to face reality. Almost everyone in their early twenties has some dream, whether it's music, sports, acting, etc and 99% have to face the possibility that maybe they're not going to be able to live out this dream.

The truth is that music will always be there regardless of how you pay the bills. By making it about a career (and your ego), and not about 'art', you're putting to much pressure on the output. 15 years ago I dj'd with tons of people who all wanted to be big producers…none of them ever made it. The only ones that are still making music are the ones that focus on their 'normal' careers and did music as a hobby. But, on the bright side, everyone seems to have a happy fulfilled life, and most have awesome jobs they love.

You might fulfill your dreams, you might not, but the best thing you can do for yourself right now is stop giving a fuck about selling your music and have fun.

[emotionz22]

http://soundcloud.com/emotionz22

I only have one track so far ...the ending is a bridge to not many ppl understand that lol

[emotionz22]

The truth is that music will always be there regardless of how you pay the bills. By making it about a career (and your ego), and not about 'art', you're putting to much pressure on the output. 15 years ago I dj'd with tons of people who all wanted to be big producers…none of them ever made it. The only ones that are still making music are the ones that focus on their 'normal' careers and did music as a hobby. But, on the bright side, everyone seems to have a happy fulfilled life, and most have awesome jobs they love.

You might fulfill your dreams, you might not, but the best thing you can do for yourself right now is stop giving a fuck about selling your music and have fun.[/quote]


Your right it is kinda about making a career out of this and that's why I become so depressed because I want a bright future ...I see myself being in the studio writing tracks and songs not living an average 9 to 5 life no offense to others....but I'm going to try to focus more on the creative side right now and not worry about my future

[jopublik]

I'm 45. I've been thru this time and time again. How do I solve it ? Colaboration is the key. Try and find someone who you can bounce your ideas off, fix deadline with..you'll be up and running. Then what will happen next is the craving to do something solo again, because collaboration has it's drawbacks : i;e : you have to compromise. So when that craving come's back..you have to go for it 100%

Another trick is to go back over your unfinished tracks, listen to them all, and give them a score from 1 to 10 on the basis of if it really corresponds to what YOU like. With that rating, now you can leave all of the SHITE and concentrate on the what you really like.

3rd trick. Take those unfinished "Good" tracks and bounce them down into stereo wavs. Now make a NEW tracks containing at least 3 bits of these "good" tracks you've bounced.

You'll be amazed at the results, because your new track will conatin changing elements and atmospheres that will certaiunly surprise you. (you can always go back to the orifinal track and tweak it so that it fits better, or you can find a new element to tie them all togeteher.

Limit your new track to 3 mins maximum. Cut out anything thats' repetitive. Create an intro and an end, plus some sort of middlke section. Then you will be laughing, cos you've finished. Mixing ? just go to the basics..get the levels right and print the Wav.

Now..leave your computer, go somewher else, take a note pad an listen to it in another envirroment. Make notes of whats not working in the mix; Go back to your project and do exactly what you've written. Print it. Your done.

Beleive me, it works.

[tech44]

I'm 45. I've been thru this time and time again. How do I solve it ? Colaboration is the key. Try and find someone who you can bounce your ideas off, fix deadline with..you'll be up and running. Then what will happen next is the craving to do something solo again, because collaboration has it's drawbacks : i;e : you have to compromise. So when that craving come's back..you have to go for it 100%

Another trick is to go back over your unfinished tracks, listen to them all, and give them a score from 1 to 10 on the basis of if it really corresponds to what YOU like. With that rating, now you can leave all of the SHITE and concentrate on the what you really like.

3rd trick. Take those unfinished "Good" tracks and bounce them down into stereo wavs. Now make a NEW tracks containing at least 3 bits of these "good" tracks you've bounced.

You'll be amazed at the results, because your new track will conatin changing elements and atmospheres that will certaiunly surprise you. (you can always go back to the orifinal track and tweak it so that it fits better, or you can find a new element to tie them all togeteher.

Limit your new track to 3 mins maximum. Cut out anything thats' repetitive. Create an intro and an end, plus some sort of middlke section. Then you will be laughing, cos you've finished. Mixing ? just go to the basics..get the levels right and print the Wav.

Now..leave your computer, go somewher else, take a note pad an listen to it in another envirroment. Make notes of whats not working in the mix; Go back to your project and do exactly what you've written. Print it. Your done.

Beleive me, it works.

Some good advice here. Thanks

[distaudio]

In order to avoid failure. You need to define what failure means to you.

Are you worried people who will listen to it won't like it?
Are you worried you won't like it?

Once you know the answer, address that issue.

The suggestions of a deadline or collaborations are great ideas.
With either suggestion they produce a sense of urgency.
Setting a deadline is obvious as you have a defined target.
Collaboration creates a sense of urgency as you always have in the back of your mind that there is someone waiting on you to do your thing.

Your right it is kinda about making a career out of this and that's why I become so depressed because I want a bright future ...I see myself being in the studio writing tracks and songs not living an average 9 to 5 life no offense to others....but I'm going to try to focus more on the creative side right now and not worry about my future

If you are writing music with the intention of making money out of it you halfway on your way to being fucked.
People identify with sincerity in music, if you are going to be doing it for the cash you will constantly be comparing yourself with those who make money, not those who have talent.
Focus on the creative side as you say, let it flow and let go and the music will not only be easier to write but better.

I had a friend who has about 7 albums he has writen. He spends stupid amounts of time tweaking and polishing his tracks for an eternity.
My favourite album of his was one he wrote, recorded and mixed in a 2 weeks.
Just be yourself and don't allow doubt to sneak in from sitting on things for too long.

[Tone Deft]

emotionz - how many hours a day do you spend practicing an instrument? when was the last time you read a book on music production? when was the last time you talked to someone that was good at that stuff? what actual DAILY work are you doing? have you learned to site read music? can you name three kinds of reverbs off the top of your head? how well do you know Live or any other DAWs?

everybody wants the payout, nobody wants to do the work.

on the flip side, what non-music related career do you think you're headed towards. you never know how you can apply a non-musical skill set to a job in an audio field.

[distaudio]

everybody wants the payout, nobody wants to do the work.

This.