unwanted ghost-notes when recording electronic drum-set

[vido]

I did my first recording on a an electronic drum-set today (Yamaha DTXplorer).

When recording I dot a lot of double-hits on my hihat.
It can sound kind of cool, but i wonder if this is normal)

I wonder if it may be something wrong with the pads or if could be a software-problem..?

Have you had similar issues, and in that case how did you fix it..?

[Ub373NNN]

I did my first recording on a an electronic drum-set today (Yamaha DTXplorer).

When recording I dot a lot of double-hits on my hihat.
It can sound kind of cool, but i wonder if this is normal)

I wonder if it may be something wrong with the pads or if could be a software-problem..?

Have you had similar issues, and in that case how did you fix it..?

i go on use yamaha dd14 to go trigger vsti on live and i only get double hits on top on each other when i go to MONITOR and listen to other tracks playing while i go record on the drums midis.
but if i do record on midi drums track all on by itself i no get on that behavior and it is good on me.

[H20nly]

could be latency?? is the timing on the first hit late?

do you have any reverbs or delays (effects) on the drum racks in Live?

[Ub373NNN]

the h2only has good questions on you to dig up to.
because i no i suffer for latency to which i no mention when i used on presonus audiosbox.
so i go switch onto my fast tracks maudio and go to use proper drivers it improving latency to be more on accurate.

[Ub373NNN]

sory to add onto another replies but i go wonder if live we go record 127 velocity on all and then after go inside to go edit the velocity on what notes we try want and it would record it better for no double hits.

[H20nly]

^ i don't think the velocity would do that unless it was being emphasized by something else... like an effect, but you could be on to something.

you might find that if you lower the velocity on one of the hits that there is a second hit that it was laying on top of. so yeah, double notes... but if they were identical, you'd just have the same note played extra loud.

[Ub373NNN]

^ i don't think the velocity would do that unless it was being emphasized by something else... like an effect, but you could be on to something.

you might find that if you lower the velocity on one of the hits that there is a second hit that it was laying on top of. so yeah, double notes... but if they were identical, you'd just have the same note played extra loud.

ok i go play around for it and test driving it. you my new freind over on here.

[vido]

Thanks a lot for your answers..!

I didnt have any effects at all on the drum-track, just addictive drummer.
No latency-problems either, unless the latency makes two notes appear almost on top of eachother.

I'll test out the velocity-settings and see if that makes a difference. It would be a big bummer if recording while listening to other midi-tracks is the problem...

Thanks again guys!

[southsounder]

I picked up a DTXpress II kit a couple of weeks ago for practicing. Haven't tried to record it, either via MIDI or audio, but have noticed some interesting behavior with the hihat pedal.

Amongst other things, as far as I can tell there is no logic built into the triggering system to mute the second trigger when the pedal down note is in close proximity to the pad trigger note. So even if your timing between the two is within milliseconds of each other, you still get two notes. They're not the same sound, so may not be the same MIDI note either.

I'm note sure whether or not this is even a bad thing, but depending on the samples addictive drummer is using it might be more obvious than it is with the internal Yammy sounds.

FWIW I don't remember if this was an issue with my Roland kit, but I never noticed anything odd with the hi-hat sounds on that kit and I noticed it right off with this one.

Dunno if that helps at all, but it might just be that the hi-hat trigger control logic on the cheaper Yamaha kits isn't the best for external triggering. Frankly I kind of think the whole hi-hat setup kinda just sucks in general.

The Roland HH-11/HH-12 on the TD-12/TD-20 is the only electronic hi-hat setup I've ever played that even comes close to feeling like a real hi-hat, and even then it was the one thing on my TD-20 that kept you from believing you were playing on a real kit when you had your eyes closed.

[fishmonkey]

it almost certainly is a config problem. hihats are the trickiest bit of any e-drum kit to make work properly, especially as there are a number of different methods that are used for handling opening and closing.

does Addictive Drummer have a MIDI template for your kit?

you can also get a better idea of what is going on by running a MIDI monitoring app on your computer so you can see exactly what MIDI messages are being sent when you play the hihat.

[vido]

Addictive Drums does have a midi-template, but I have to agree that the hi-hat-system does feel a bit strange. But since I'm not a "real" drummer I can't really tell if I just suck at playing it or if the kit is a bit weird when recoring midi...