where to learn ableton?

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felipescalador12
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where to learn ableton?

Post by felipescalador12 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:55 pm

where can i learn ableton?

is groove 3 any good?
how did you learn it?

is the dubspot online ableton course "Ableton Live Producer Certificate Program" that costs 4750 worth it???



how do you learn synthesis. I have tried using "strobe" but cant really produce any good sounds.



any help is greatly apreciated.

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by oddstep » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:06 pm

I learnt Ableton by using the built in tutorials, getting bored and trying to make my own music, hitting the limits of my understanding, reading bits of the manual and searching out stuff on the internet/this forum. Talking to and playing with other musicians/producers has helped me a lot.
Eventually I got to a point where I understood the software and how it deals with audio and midi data well enough for Live to help me realise my ideas rather than shape them. Synthesis I learnt in much the same way. I also examined other people's patches and got to understand how they worked by breaking them. I've also learnt a lot by spending hours playing moronic patterns on a synth, tweaking a parameter until I liked it, and repeating this process until I there was nothing I could change without making the sound less interesting. The important part was finding this holiday in Aspergersland enjoyable in its own right.

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by starving student » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:28 pm

doesn't get much better than this my friend.


http://nickstutorials.com/

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by simmerdown » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:45 pm

on the job training, sit down in front of it...supplement as needed, when needed

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:04 pm

simmerdown wrote:on the job training, sit down in front of it...supplement as needed, when needed
yep.

also, the sticky in the Tips n Tricks has TONS of great posts

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27120

leave the help box open in the lower right corner. spend some time and hover the mouse over ALL the controls. do an exercise with each one.

also, try answering questions on the forum. there's no better way to learn what you do and don't know than to think your thoughts through clearly and have people around to correct or append to your answer.
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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by trevox » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:21 pm

This dude is offering free video tutorials this weekend.....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=181640

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by simmerdown » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:29 pm

cant imagine paying 5 grand for online course...idk

many many dubspot tuts on utube, free...theyre good, but many different teachers are also great...ive seen tons of topics that dubspot dont cover

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by trevox » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:59 pm

On learning synthesis - nothing beats playing around on a real synth IMO. Never used strobe, so don't know how intuitive it is, but I would start off with a basic synth and learn subtractive synthesis (google it for info). Learning what oscillators, envelopes and filters actually are is the first step. Then onto the different type of each one of those. That is the very basics and you should have fun playing around with a basic synth armed with this knowledge. Practical experience is the key though as I said - along with patience.

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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by Tone Deft » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:34 am

simmerdown wrote:cant imagine paying 5 grand for online course...idk
I can imagine trying to charge that much. holy @#$%^&!! there are some dumb lazy rich people out there! :lol:

they'd have to be industry people getting the label to pay for it.
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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by david.barker » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:04 am

Hi there :D

I can recommend MacPro Video :D

they are excellent,and in depth,prices are a lot cheaper than an online course


I am fairly new to Ableton,and already these are proving very useful


http://www.macprovideo.com
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Re: where to learn ableton?

Post by beatmunga » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:06 am

oddstep wrote:The important part was finding this holiday in Aspergersland enjoyable in its own right.
Listen to oddstep. For you to get any good you will gladly choose to do this very nerdy and decidedly un Rock 'n Roll stuff over:

Going out for a drink,
Trawling Facebook for new semi-strangers to add as 'friends'
Shooting prostitutes/zombies on your telly
Watching moronic talent shows on your telly
Spending quality time with your loved ones
Giving a shit about your real job
Turning to specialist forums every time you hit a slight problem
etc etc

Like Robert Johnson, you need to disappear from the world for a good while and emerge months down the line like a pupated talented autistic butterfly. The world will be so puzzled by your newly aquired gifts that rumours will start that you have sold your soul to the Devil.

It's a very unglamourous and enjoyable ride. I envy you for embarking on it. Have fun!
mendeldrive wrote:NOBODY designs their own sounds... There is ZERO point in reinventing the wheel.

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