Different scales

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Different scales

Post by donmich » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:32 pm

Has anyone created presets of other scales for the Scale device? Like dorian, mixolydian etc?

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Re: Different scales

Post by pre55ure » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:00 pm

yes, do a search for "the covert operators" I think they released a live pack that had a ton of different scales.

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Re: Different scales

Post by Vios » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:44 pm

When it comes to music theory and preset scales in Live, nothing is more complete than this (that I have found):

Circle of Fifths Chords Tutorial and File

As far as I know, it has all of the scales one could think of using in addition to the typical chords within each basic key. For those of us that geek out about music theory it's definitely something to check out!
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Re: Different scales

Post by 3dot... » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:29 am

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Re: Different scales

Post by andydes » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:31 am

I have an awesome set of presets for all the chromatic scales.

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Re: Different scales

Post by 3dot... » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:58 am

well... try it out..
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Re: Different scales

Post by donmich » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:27 pm

Thanks everyone. Lots to check out.

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Re: Different scales

Post by patrick.olson86 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:28 pm

Or you could just learn the scales, it would take you one whole day! Just kidding :mrgreen:

But honestly, I've always found improv playing with the scale instrument to give me less control over my arrangement. It will sound right, but not right on! (augmented/diminshed chords and notes outside the scale such as passing tones are by the wayside)

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Re: Different scales

Post by donmich » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:42 pm

patrick.olson86 wrote:Or you could just learn the scales, it would take you one whole day! Just kidding :mrgreen:

But honestly, I've always found improv playing with the scale instrument to give me less control over my arrangement. It will sound right, but not right on! (augmented/diminshed chords and notes outside the scale such as passing tones are by the wayside)
Who needs ableton at all when you can just learn to play a real instrument and play everything live? :wink:

Scale presets are handy for generative music if you arent a whizzbang max user for example. Its also a quick way of learning a scale if you dont have any theory
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Re: Different scales

Post by simmerdown » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:44 pm

i liked hearin Eno's method...bang on the keyboard, then go back and rearrange the midi notes...

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Re: Different scales

Post by 3dot... » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:41 am

simmerdown wrote:i liked hearin Eno's method...bang on the keyboard, then go back and rearrange the midi notes...
this has to be said ...
once and for all...
while I appreciate Brian Eno... and some of his records..
he's known to say some very silly things...sometimes ...just for the sake of being "different"..
if I would've known him personally.. in this case I would tell him to stfu..
Eno knows his scales btw... he's from the pre-MIDI pre-patches era after all..
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Re: Different scales

Post by synnack » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:18 am

pre55ure wrote:yes, do a search for "the covert operators" I think they released a live pack that had a ton of different scales.
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Re: Different scales

Post by 3dot... » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:09 am

funken wrote:yeah, will do

did you make them?
some of them.. the majority I collected over the years from various places...
.. I very rarely use the scale device...
I think the cov. ops presets should be in there too..
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Re: Different scales

Post by stringtapper » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:59 pm

funken wrote:I've never used the scale device, not even sure what it is, must have a look now.
It's a device that constrains all incoming notes to a selected scale. Essentially it automatically does what you were trying to convey with your "can't play any wrong notes" tutorial, except one would need to know even less about music using the Scale device as long as they had the presets that told them what scale they were playing in.
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Re: Different scales

Post by simmerdown » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:18 pm

well i don't think eno says things for the sake of being different, i think he is different, and thinks differently...no need to prove anything at this point, except his generosity of talking about it at all

that said, i like about 1/4 of his stuff, but i can still appreciate his abilities...why he's gettign 100 grand to consult productions, and we are here in the Live forum

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