Levels, mixing and headroom?

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jasper
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Re: Levels, mixing and headroom?

Post by jasper » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:19 am

Battery is notorious for shipping with blaringly loud volume settings by default.
turn Baterry's master level down so it's in a comfy green area.

Each DAW has its own audio engine and processes MIXED sounds differently.
There was a debate some tme ago where someone said: "well if all DAW's have different audio engines, then why does this sine wave hut the fader at -6db on all my DAW's?"

I wanted to reply: "do you make many pieces that use one sine wave on one track?"
It was always noticeable to me the difference in sound quality between Logic and Cubase, for example.
it always seemed that no matter what I threw into cubase, the sound quality was always rich and tame...very basic EQ-ing was needed and the mix seemed to take care of itself.
Where Logic always required mixing skills and very precise EQ-ing and was always hard to get it to sound non-irritating.
New versions of Logic are better with that because their audio engine now squashes mids more, leaving mostly just trimming of bass to tune up a mix.

An engineer in New York gave me this:
In order of "spaciousness" and headroom,
ProTools has the most
Logic is next and has more than Cubase.
Ableton Live sounds to me like its engine treats mixed audio signals similarly to Cubase;
Not much utility type EQ is needed.

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Re: Levels, mixing and headroom?

Post by Sage » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:05 pm

jasper wrote:Battery is notorious for shipping with blaringly loud volume settings by default.
turn Baterry's master level down so it's in a comfy green area.

Each DAW has its own audio engine and processes MIXED sounds differently.
There was a debate some tme ago where someone said: "well if all DAW's have different audio engines, then why does this sine wave hut the fader at -6db on all my DAW's?"

I wanted to reply: "do you make many pieces that use one sine wave on one track?"
It was always noticeable to me the difference in sound quality between Logic and Cubase, for example.
it always seemed that no matter what I threw into cubase, the sound quality was always rich and tame...very basic EQ-ing was needed and the mix seemed to take care of itself.
Where Logic always required mixing skills and very precise EQ-ing and was always hard to get it to sound non-irritating.
New versions of Logic are better with that because their audio engine now squashes mids more, leaving mostly just trimming of bass to tune up a mix.

An engineer in New York gave me this:
In order of "spaciousness" and headroom,
ProTools has the most
Logic is next and has more than Cubase.
Ableton Live sounds to me like its engine treats mixed audio signals similarly to Cubase;
Not much utility type EQ is needed.
Are you using purely 3rd party plugins, all mixed in the same studio & monitors and doing blind listening tests?

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