b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

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b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by 3dot... » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:25 pm

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by PHY6 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:44 am

It sure is...

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by Sibanger » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:43 am

Love the FX7 Distortion :)

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by Electric Blue Studios » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:45 pm

Sounds absolutely gorgeous. A little rough (even with a discount) for people who bought aether/breeze already.

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:48 am

Seems like a nice verb. 2caudio make nice sounding reverb no doubt. And the main guy is very friendly it seems. I do think they're products are overpriced though. I bought Aether during a group buy for 125, which I was happy about, but I would never spend the full 250 on it. Same with this one. The 150 intro seems reasonable but with valhallaroom and aether already, I don't quite think I can bite. Maybe it just seems overpriced compared to the Valhalla plugs, which are amazing for 50 bucks.

Cool thing about this B2 is that it loads breeze presets and can be equally as CPU efficient if just using the single engine, it can be crazy using the two engins. And I do think breeze is quite nice. So part of me would like this since I don't have breeze. But I should not let the GAS take over.
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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by Sibanger » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:54 am

It would be reasonable if they offered it for $100, if you owned both Aether & Breeze.
I would jump straight on it, but.......a bit pricey even at the $150 discount price.

Fuck, I love the distortion on this thing........ :x

Resist........

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:20 am

I didn't even need to demo it...
read the description and bought..
The Attitude module may be placed in four different routing positions within the signal chain. Output positions generally give more severe results as they also cause intermodulation distortion in the reverb tail. Gentle saturation modes can give a sonic character similar to the imperfections of various classical hardware devices that had to deal with electrical engineering issues such as poor power supplies and other real-world things we don't claim to fully understand all the details of. Extreme Attitude settings work best on drums, basses, monophonic leads, and synth pads with few transients. They offer some uniquely twisted timbres suitable for aggressive styles of modern music production and we offer several preset folders dedicated to this end. They are unlikely to find application in your latest string quartet, but fear not, because if you simply disable the Attitude control or substantially reduce the knob value and accept humility, you will quickly ascend through the nine levels of the inferno and return to paradise.
Aether is seriously the best and most diverse re-verb processor I've ever owned...
it proves quality...
I didn't get "Breeze" when it came out..
because it seemed redundant for Aether users..saves maybe 2% cpu...
this is why B2 is jaw-dropping to me...
it goes beyond Aethers' capabilities..
and sounds range from sweet to insane..
if I thought Aether was an organic and non-linear reverb...
b2 goes to the absurds integrating effects and giving control over many many parameter which you would not find on any reverb unit...
this I love..
and think we should get more of...
truly innovative

I'll summarize by saying..
in this day and age...
it's rather hard to sell vst plugins to me...
I'm pretty much over-stocked with stuff for everything I need..
(Live+M4l+Reaper+Komplete7+Waves Mercury+selected plugins)
this thing was a no-brainer for me even at 150$...
you can't put a price on good times...
in my mind...this thing has already "returned" it's investment
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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:51 am

Sibanger wrote:It would be reasonable if they offered it for $100, if you owned both Aether & Breeze.
I would jump straight on it, but.......a bit pricey even at the $150 discount price.

Fuck, I love the distortion on this thing........ :x

Resist........
if you own "perfect storm" then the upgrade is 99$ I think
TO ORDER THE PERFECT STORM 2.0 UPGRADE:
Upgrade for only $99.95 from now until Sept 01, 2012.
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0) Go HERE:
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1) Select OS format(s) from menus above. Add to cart, and continue to checkout.

2) At checkout you need to enter one of the following coupon codes depending on your order history:

PerfectStorm2Upgrade : If you have previously ordered the Perfect Storm 1.0 bundle.

PerfectStorm2Upgrade2 : If you have previously ordered (Aether + Aether Expansions + Breeze).

PerfectStorm2Upgrade3 : If you have previously ordered (Aether2009GroupBuy + Aether Expansions + Breeze).

3) Enter the appropriate coupon code for your circumstances on the checkout page. This will adjust the price to $99.95. Proceed through checkout.

The discussions that led us to this decision can be found here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-prod ... everb.html
You will notice B2 seems to have about a 100% approval rating in terms of sound-quality, features, and performance, and it seems we may have another hit on our hands. The only complaints seem to be:

1) Perfect Storm customers should get a larger discount than single-product customers.
2) It's too good. (or we like it more than Aether, etc.)

This email, solves issue number 1, and I think over time we can all agree being "too good" is not really a problem! As always we appreciate your support and feedback, and we encourage you to join these discussions as you see fit.
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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by pencilrocket » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:07 am

How many listener can identify the difference between reverb A in a track and b2 in a track?

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:12 am

pencilrocket wrote:How many listener can identify the difference between reverb A in a track and b2 in a track?
none.. for all I care..
why should they make the difference.. or even care ?
they're listening to the complete finished sound the "craftsman" constructed..
and the craftsman loves his tools...
and knows (or should know) the differences between them

with that logic we should only have 1 of any kind..
1 compressor.. 1 eq... etc.
even Lives' compressor has more than 1 detection algo.
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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by Sibanger » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:22 am

^^ Yeah 3dot, I didn't buy 'Perfect Storm', but own Aether + Breeze, which I bought separately.

I could not justify spending extra for a few presets......

The discount offer is $150....

Does B2 make Aether redundant ? It seems to be Aether on steroids, with a cleaner GUI.

Did I mention that I fucking LOVE the distortion presets ? :wink:

Think I'll sell something to pick this up.

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:26 am

the distortions and dynamics are very cool... and can be used without the reverb...
also.. the "Geometry" and Cascade controls..
this is a reverb unit that can growl !
I don't know if it "replaces" Aether... it's less "conventional"

I guess buying the "aether expansion" will save you another 25$ ?
(get the presets for 25$ which qualify you for "perfect storm 1.0" and get the upgrade to 2.0 for 99$)

for me it wasn't applicable because I only own Aether..
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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by pencilrocket » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:44 am

3dot... wrote:none.. for all I care..
why should they make the difference.. or even care ?
they're listening to the complete finished sound the "craftsman" constructed..
and the craftsman loves his tools...
and knows (or should know) the differences between them

with that logic we should only have 1 of any kind..
1 compressor.. 1 eq... etc.
even Lives' compressor has more than 1 detection algo.
Because listener want to listen your music, they don't care what reverb producer uses. And craftsman can craft everything with which customer will satisfy with his familiar tools in his toolbox...

And the analog emulation isn't in the same category as it is something like audiophile. I'm not saying audiophile is nonsense, it's his/her values.

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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:54 am

you don't get it..
this is stuff for ME..
to keep ME inspired...
to keep ME exploring...
if an fx/instrument ... surpasses my expectations..
then it will be a welcomed addition to my pallette..
if I can currently afford to get it
simply put... new toys for the kid in me...
this was the case when I moved to Live from Cubase...
and when I got tools like Absynth or Reaktor..
I'm not an audiophile.. but I do (really) like messing with sounds...
and make a living off of it...
and I also have a lot of respect for the people making these products..
this is not my first and will not be my last reverb I'm guessing...

I used to say all I need I have in Live..
while this is still somewhat true..
I could never get the sounds I get from Aether/b2 so easily in Live..
and I don't see why I should limit myself for the sake of what?

if your q is...do I need all this shit to make a good tune ?
or to mix better ?
then the answer is definitely no...
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Re: b2 : new Reverb from 2cAudio...

Post by Sibanger » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:11 am

3dot... wrote:the distortions and dynamics are very cool... and can be used without the reverb...
also.. the "Geometry" and Cascade controls..
this is a reverb unit that can growl !
I don't know if it "replaces" Aether... it's less "conventional"

I guess buying the "aether expansion" will save you another 25$ ?
(get the presets for 25$ which qualify you for "perfect storm 1.0" and get the upgrade to 2.0 for 99$)

for me it wasn't applicable because I only own Aether..
:D

Thanks 3dot.

Galbanum-

2) At checkout you need to enter one of the following coupon codes depending on your order history:

PerfectStorm2Upgrade : If you have previously ordered the Perfect Storm 1.0 bundle.

PerfectStorm2Upgrade2 : If you have previously ordered (Aether + Aether Expansions + Breeze).

PerfectStorm2Upgrade3 : If you have previously ordered (Aether2009GroupBuy + Aether Expansions + Breeze).




2CAudio Aether 1.5 Preset Expansions.

Aether Preset Expansion Details

This listing is only for the Aether 1.5 Preset Expansions. Currently we offer two Preset Expansions:

Aether Integrity Expansion
Aether Creativity Expansion

Preset Expansions are normally $24.95 each, or $39.95 if purchased together.

Choose the desired preset expansion in option 1. If you would like to add the second preset expansion, please select it in option 2, otherwise the the "add - none" option selected. Please continue through checkout.
I think to qualify for the $99.95, you have to own/buy both expansions.
Still, it's another $10 off the price.

Cheers

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