How would you make chords sound like this?

yeaokwali · Post by **yeaokwali** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:36 pm

Starts happening @ 0:28 - http://soundcloud.com/fybeone/irenidae- ... -via-xlr8r

I'm still learning, but from what I can tell it sounds like some type of side-chaining? Any suggestions for re-creating this effect?

aioffermann · Post by **aioffermann** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:10 pm

I only took a quick listen but it seems like the gist of this can be recreated via:

Use triangle waves
Hi-passed white noise
And what you thought was sidechaining COULD be sidechaining, but I'd place my bets on just a long attack stage in the ADSR amp envelope.

EDIT: If you find the triangle wave to be a little too "flat" in terms of upper harmonic content, you can use a lowpassed square wave. Triangle waves and square waves are both made of only the odd-numbered harmonics in the harmonic series, but the triangle wave's harmonics diminish in volume faster than the squares, thus the square being "harsher", "sharper".

biologik · Post by **biologik** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:46 pm

agreed, this isn't sidechaining, it's just a long attack on a noise + tri wave env (or similar).

aioffermann wrote:I only took a quick listen but it seems like the gist of this can be recreated via:

Use triangle waves
Hi-passed white noise
And what you thought was sidechaining COULD be sidechaining, but I'd place my bets on just a long attack stage in the ADSR amp envelope.

EDIT: If you find the triangle wave to be a little too "flat" in terms of upper harmonic content, you can use a lowpassed square wave. Triangle waves and square waves are both made of only the odd-numbered harmonics in the harmonic series, but the triangle wave's harmonics diminish in volume faster than the squares, thus the square being "harsher", "sharper".

yeaokwali · Post by **yeaokwali** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:39 pm

biologik wrote:agreed, this isn't sidechaining, it's just a long attack on a noise + tri wave env (or similar).

aioffermann wrote:I only took a quick listen but it seems like the gist of this can be recreated via:

Use triangle waves
Hi-passed white noise
And what you thought was sidechaining COULD be sidechaining, but I'd place my bets on just a long attack stage in the ADSR amp envelope.

EDIT: If you find the triangle wave to be a little too "flat" in terms of upper harmonic content, you can use a lowpassed square wave. Triangle waves and square waves are both made of only the odd-numbered harmonics in the harmonic series, but the triangle wave's harmonics diminish in volume faster than the squares, thus the square being "harsher", "sharper".

Really? Lol....Now that's interesting. I swear I need to link up with an intermediate level producer in real life, so I can see some of this in real time, and beat down on my learning curve a bit. I love tutorials, and reading and all but.........Anyway appreciate the detailed explanation sounds a bit fancy lol.....but I get the general idea and will experiment with this. I posted somewhere else, and people suggested sidechaining and volume automation.

aioffermann · Post by **aioffermann** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:58 pm

yeaokwali wrote:
biologik wrote:agreed, this isn't sidechaining, it's just a long attack on a noise + tri wave env (or similar).

aioffermann wrote:I only took a quick listen but it seems like the gist of this can be recreated via:

Use triangle waves
Hi-passed white noise
And what you thought was sidechaining COULD be sidechaining, but I'd place my bets on just a long attack stage in the ADSR amp envelope.

EDIT: If you find the triangle wave to be a little too "flat" in terms of upper harmonic content, you can use a lowpassed square wave. Triangle waves and square waves are both made of only the odd-numbered harmonics in the harmonic series, but the triangle wave's harmonics diminish in volume faster than the squares, thus the square being "harsher", "sharper".
Really? Lol....Now that's interesting. I swear I need to link up with an intermediate level producer in real life, so I can see some of this in real time, and beat down on my learning curve a bit. I love tutorials, and reading and all but.........Anyway appreciate the detailed explanation sounds a bit fancy lol.....but I get the general idea and will experiment with this. I posted somewhere else, and people suggested sidechaining and volume automation.

Volume automation!!!??? Haha, I mean that's one method I guess. I mean go for it if it enhances your expression but I think a long attack is what you want. Everything in music production sounds fancy but as you learn more you'll realize this is a pretty basic sound. What synth are you using?

yeaokwali · Post by **yeaokwali** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:06 pm

Volume automation!!!??? Haha, I mean that's one method I guess. I mean go for it if it enhances your expression but I think a long attack is what you want. Everything in music production sounds fancy but as you learn more you'll realize this is a pretty basic sound. What synth are you using?

I'd most likely use operator for this or analog one of those two....most likely operator lol.

aioffermann · Post by **aioffermann** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:48 pm

Ah shucks, can't help ya there. Don't really use those. I was gonna say if your using Reason I can give you a step-by-step! But yea for some reason I never got into making synths on Ableton. Now I just use a Mopho and a Tetra

yeaokwali · Post by **yeaokwali** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:58 pm

aioffermann wrote:Ah shucks, can't help ya there. Don't really use those. I was gonna say if your using Reason I can give you a step-by-step! But yea for some reason I never got into making synths on Ableton. Now I just use a Mopho and a Tetra

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.......its cool. I gotta get me a real life "mentor" fast lol. The mopho hardware box? Doesn't James Blake use that in studio, and live? Huge inspiration of mines. Anyway seems like the volume thing is viable but you really have to play with it to get it right. Someone suggested the chords are just reversed which honestly seems so simple I want to smack myself, gonna give that a try and see.

aioffermann · Post by **aioffermann** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:02 am

I don't know if James Blake uses it but I do know that Moritz von Oswald does, and he's a beast. If the chords are reversed, that means the whole thing started with a short attack (or none) and a long decay. I think just using a long attack is the best method as far as PRACTICALITY is concerned. This way you can save the patch and play with it as you'd like rather than decide for sure on a chord progression, render it as audio, and reverse it. It's more "live" if ya feel me.

yeaokwali · Post by **yeaokwali** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:07 am

aioffermann wrote:I don't know if James Blake uses it but I do know that Moritz von Oswald does, and he's a beast. If the chords are reversed, that means the whole thing started with a short attack (or none) and a long decay. I think just using a long attack is the best method as far as PRACTICALITY is concerned. This way you can save the patch and play with it as you'd like rather than decide for sure on a chord progression, render it as audio, and reverse it. It's more "live" if ya feel me.

Never herd of em just looked em up tho and saw a prophet 5, Blake uses an 8 lol.....never really gave techno a proper listen tho, I think everyone calling anything electronic music alla "yo what is this techno shxt?!" put me off to it lol....ya I need to figure this out tho......like seriously lol

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